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Title: Liberty looking to try four part F1 Quali format for 2019?
Post by: John S on September 24, 2018, 12:47:38 AM
Not sure if this will be good or bad news.  :DntKnw:
Won't a final 8 Q4 just mean 6 serious runners and 2 who'll maybe run to use the extra set of softest tyres. This could change of course if the tweaks to the front & rear wings allows much closer racing throughout, bringing mid field teams closer to the big boys in races.   

http://f1i.com/news/317835-f1-could-implement-four-part-qualifying-format-in-2019.html
Title: Re: Liberty looking to try four part F1 Quali format for 2019?
Post by: Jericoke on September 24, 2018, 02:35:57 PM
What is the intention of the new system?

Are they trying to get more laps run on Saturday, providing more spectacle for fans, therefore more ticket sales for the venues?  If so, then I can stand behind that.

If they're keeping the 60 minute session, it makes each Q segment shorter, which increases the odds of a top driver putting in a bad lap and getting knocked out early.  It gives a chance to a strong/lucky midfield team to get a good result for their sponsors.  It also mixes up the race itself, with 'faster' cars qualifying lower and having to work their way up.  If so, I can stand behind that too.
Title: Re: Liberty looking to try four part F1 Quali format for 2019?
Post by: cosworth151 on September 24, 2018, 05:53:58 PM
I wonder if their TV contracts will allow them to go outside of a 60 minute block.

Quali is about the only part of F1 that most fans think is being done well. Why mess with it when there is so much being done badly? I definitely don't like changing the tire rule. Let the mid-fielders have a little something to level the playing field.
Title: Re: Liberty looking to try four part F1 Quali format for 2019?
Post by: Andy B on September 25, 2018, 05:10:35 AM
If it ain't broke etc!
Title: Re: Liberty looking to try four part F1 Quali format for 2019?
Post by: Scott on September 25, 2018, 11:39:50 AM
I agree...there are so many other things in F1 that need tweaking.  Leave Q alone.
Title: Re: Liberty looking to try four part F1 Quali format for 2019?
Post by: guest3164 on September 25, 2018, 01:26:29 PM
But then Liberty can look like owners who care when in 2020 they switch back to the current format, having 'listened to the views of race fans'. 
Title: Re: Liberty looking to try four part F1 Quali format for 2019?
Post by: Jericoke on September 25, 2018, 03:05:15 PM
I wonder if their TV contracts will allow them to go outside of a 60 minute block.

Quali is about the only part of F1 that most fans think is being done well. Why mess with it when there is so much being done badly? I definitely don't like changing the tire rule. Let the mid-fielders have a little something to level the playing field.

Considering how many parties must agree to changes before anything can happen in F1, this may be one of the few things that Liberty CAN accomplish.
Title: Re: Liberty looking to try four part F1 Quali format for 2019?
Post by: cosworth151 on September 25, 2018, 06:10:13 PM
If it ain't broke etc!

I think Liberty goes by one of Red Green's old sayings: If it's not broke, you're not trying."
Title: Re: Liberty looking to try four part F1 Quali format for 2019?
Post by: Jericoke on September 25, 2018, 07:51:22 PM
If it ain't broke etc!

I think Liberty goes by one of Red Green's old sayings: If it's not broke, you're not trying."

It's quite amazing how many comedians are trained engineers (Steve "Red Green" Smith, Rowan "Mr. Bean" Atkinson) or gear heads (Jay Leno, David Letterman, Jerry Seinfeld).

I would love to see them more involved in top level racing as owners or brand ambassadors.  Although I do know that Letterman was involved in CART ownership, I'm not sure if he stayed involved with Rahal after they moved to IndyCar.
Title: Re: Liberty looking to try four part F1 Quali format for 2019?
Post by: cosworth151 on September 25, 2018, 08:51:31 PM
Yes, he is. The team is now Rahal Letterman Lanigan (RRL) Racing. Besides the IndyCar team, they also run BMW's IMSA GTD team and something in the Jaguar E-Pace electric series.
Title: Re: Liberty looking to try four part F1 Quali format for 2019?
Post by: Irisado on September 29, 2018, 11:36:59 AM
Yet another pointless proposal which fails to address the problems with the quality of racing in Formula 1.  Qualifying is not the problem, so it needs to be left alone.  The problems are just about everywhere else.
Title: Re: Liberty looking to try four part F1 Quali format for 2019?
Post by: Alianora La Canta on September 29, 2018, 03:00:53 PM
As Meat Loaf once sung, "If it ain't broke, break it"...
Title: Re: Liberty looking to try four part F1 Quali format for 2019?
Post by: Robem64 on October 05, 2018, 04:14:16 PM
And on this occasion I agree with Grosjean

https://www.racefans.net/2018/10/04/grosjean-f1-focusing-real-problem/ (https://www.racefans.net/2018/10/04/grosjean-f1-focusing-real-problem/)
Title: Re: Liberty looking to try four part F1 Quali format for 2019?
Post by: Irisado on October 05, 2018, 06:39:28 PM
He is right, I agree.  The only saving grace is that the top ten at least score points now.  If races were still using the pre-2003 scoring system, combined with ridiculous reliability that is pervasive now, barely any team outside the top three would ever score any points.
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