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Title: Webber concern for DanRic
Post by: Robem64 on November 05, 2018, 12:46:37 PM
https://www.planetf1.com/news/webber-concerned-as-ricciardo-gears-up-for-renault-move/ (https://www.planetf1.com/news/webber-concerned-as-ricciardo-gears-up-for-renault-move/)
Title: Re: Webber concern for DanRic
Post by: Jericoke on November 05, 2018, 02:16:13 PM
Ricciardo is on of the drivers who seems to enjoy the non racing of F1 the most.  Maybe it's an act, but does anyone seem to be enjoying the interminable interviews more than Daniel?  Considering how often he's giving interviews in bad circumstances, I'd understand if he approached them with a dour face, but even the darkest clouds have big silver lining where Ricciardo is involved.
Title: Re: Webber concern for DanRic
Post by: Scott on November 05, 2018, 05:16:23 PM
I’m a bit surprised someone like Webber is trying to assess DR’s psychological health, when Mark’s career showed him to be mentally weak, especially against Vettel.

DR doesn’t seem phased by anything or anyone.  Of course he’s going to show frustration when he keeps having power unit failures, but I think he understands better than even Webber, that 2019 is going to be a new year, with new regulations, and Renault is going to step up their commitment and budget.

I think DR knows exactly what he’s doing, and I’m glad he made the choice to leave a toxic situation and has the courage to go somewhere with huge potential, and not somewhere where he’ll just get tucked into a nice, safe, fast car.  Good for him.  Webber on the other hand took the abuse from Vettel, but didn’t have the courage to go somewhere where he could perhaps be a leader and not just a tailgunner.
Title: Re: Webber concern for DanRic
Post by: Alianora La Canta on November 05, 2018, 06:13:25 PM
I think it's that Daniel said to give the car to Pierre when retiring his car last time out. That's pretty rare for someone to say on-camera. I don't think it's psychological weakness to say it in the context Daniel is in - but something was definitely off.

Daniel said on Friday (I think) that he really just needed a few days off. I hope it's that simple, and it probably is. Nagging doubts persist, perhaps unreasonably.
Title: Re: Webber concern for DanRic
Post by: Scott on November 05, 2018, 06:56:29 PM
I was referring more to Webber’s comments about how DR will handle being at Renault next year. 

Now that he is not beholden to RBR, he has some wiggle room regarding his criticism of his current team, and I think he was still thinking clearly when in fact he didn’t directly criticize the engine, but the whole car. 
Title: Re: Webber concern for DanRic
Post by: Calman on December 12, 2018, 01:41:44 AM
This would also add to Danny Ric's fans concerns ...

https://thewest.com.au/sport/f1/daniel-ricciardo-admits-to-outbursts-after-shocking-final-season-at-red-bull-ng-b881048150z

Sounds like he was just as talented at "late breaking" with his fist/elbow and knees off the track during his 2018 campaign.  The obvious concern being, if things don't fly at Renault, will we see more Danny Ric frustration/outbursts and less of Danny Ric "all smiles and jokes" ?? 

Best Regards,
Cal :)
Title: Re: Webber concern for DanRic
Post by: Scott on December 13, 2018, 07:39:22 PM
Too bad he didn’t take his frustrations out on Max a couple of times  ;) :D

Just because he smiles and jokes doesn’t mean he can’t be just as emotional when angry.  He has had every right to have a few meltdowns, in fact three makes him mild mannered.  But your point was if his fans should be worried, and I am not.  He is one of the most maturely behaved drivers on the grid,on and off the track, and I don’t see that changing.
Title: Re: Webber concern for DanRic
Post by: Calman on December 13, 2018, 07:55:11 PM
Too bad he didn’t take his frustrations out on Max a couple of times  ;) :D

That's where I feel that stressed situations must have presented themselves, in a similar way to the Webber/Vettel days.  I always remember seeing Mark Webber on Top Gear and of course, the question on how he got along with his team mate came up.  Mark's answer was something along the lines of "my folks always told me that you're not to hit little boys!".    I bet Danny Ric had similar thoughts on many occasions throughout 2017/18 towards Mad Max!!

Best Regards,
Cal :)
Title: Re: Webber concern for DanRic
Post by: John S on December 13, 2018, 08:11:30 PM
It's very hard to accept that another driver is able to equal or beat you regularly, or even at all, in the same equipment when you have been the lead driver.

The mark of a top bloke is that you don't resort to dirty or less than honest stuff, on that count both Mark and Danny Ric come out as true F1 sportsmen in my book.

 
Title: Re: Webber concern for DanRic
Post by: Dare on December 13, 2018, 09:30:41 PM
Webber's best run for the WDC lost was
his own fault. He broke his rib's riding a bike.
Shoukd have had his priorities lined out. As for DR
I agree a fist aimed at beady eyes would have made me happy
Title: Re: Webber concern for DanRic
Post by: Alianora La Canta on December 17, 2018, 02:55:47 PM
Webber's best run for the WDC lost was
his own fault. He broke his rib's riding a bike.
Shoukd have had his priorities lined out. As for DR
I agree a fist aimed at beady eyes would have made me happy

The trouble is that cycling is deemed part of staying fit, thus part of a driver's job and supposed to help with title campaigns. (Being hit by a vehicle while cycling, while emphatically not part of a driver's job or helpful to a title campaign, isn't something to which drivers and teams have found a mutually acceptable solution for yet. Drivers find it difficult/impossible to replicate that level of training from a stationary cycle, alas).
Title: Re: Webber concern for DanRic
Post by: Scott on December 17, 2018, 04:29:48 PM
Webber's best run for the WDC lost was
his own fault. He broke his rib's riding a bike.
Shoukd have had his priorities lined out. As for DR
I agree a fist aimed at beady eyes would have made me happy

The trouble is that cycling is deemed part of staying fit, thus part of a driver's job and supposed to help with title campaigns. (Being hit by a vehicle while cycling, while emphatically not part of a driver's job or helpful to a title campaign, isn't something to which drivers and teams have found a mutually acceptable solution for yet. Drivers find it difficult/impossible to replicate that level of training from a stationary cycle, alas).

Plus, he was hit by a car...the worst danger in biking is idiots in cars (yes, frustrated drivers can now jump down my throat - but I ride on the edge of the road and am very aware of my surroundings and other vehicles...yet have still had WAY too many close calls because drivers are not paying attention or are too aggressive).
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