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F1 News & Discussions => General F1 Discussion => Topic started by: F1fanaticBD on November 27, 2012, 10:13:45 PM
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After taking three consecutive double, Infinity, the luxury brand of Nissan-Renault has made a deal with Red-Bull to be named as Infinity Red-Bull Racing..
http://pitpass.com/48063-Infiniti-and-beyond-for-Red-Bull (http://pitpass.com/48063-Infiniti-and-beyond-for-Red-Bull)
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Never seen an Infinity on the road, ever!
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Never seen an Infinity on the road, ever!
Oi, over here Infinitis are how we spot spoiled rich kids.
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Never seen an Infinity on the road, ever!
Oi, over here Infinitis are how we spot spoiled rich kids.
Over here, Infinities are how we spot corrupt businessmen.. :D
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Never seen an Infinity on the road, ever!
I might have, :DntKnw: how on earth do you recognise one in amongst all the new Chinese and Korean models running round now anyway? :D
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It doesn't mention if the Renault engine will be re-badged Infiniti. I don't think the advertising department will view "Infiniti Red Bull racing, powered by Renault" as good copy. I view the talk of now having Infiniti as a partner as mostly advert hype. After all, Infiniti is part of Nissan which is part of Renault. Same players, different labels.
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If you're going to go upmarket from a Nissan, wouldn't you just choose a VW or something? :DntKnw: ;) ;)
...don't think I've ever seen an Infinity here either. Nissan's are only SUV's or trucks.
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In the US Infiniti competes with BMW, Lexus, and Audi in the Luxury Sports segment. In a comparison test a couple years ago Road & Track picked the Infiniti G as the best in class. Drove one when I was car shopping and it was quite nice.
Renault says the engines will still be Renaults. Infiniti is only a title sponsor.
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I've never seen an Infiniti either. To me this is just Renault making Red Bull closer to being a factory team but through any other means. Love the corporate names though, not like anyone ever calls a team by it's full 'sponsored' name.
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Here's a disguised one.
http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1080013_2014-infiniti-g37-spy-video (http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1080013_2014-infiniti-g37-spy-video)
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And out of disguise.
http://www.infinitiusa.com/g_coupe/key-features/?next=Model.Home.Key_Features#feature=intelligent_cruise_control (http://www.infinitiusa.com/g_coupe/key-features/?next=Model.Home.Key_Features#feature=intelligent_cruise_control)
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From what I've seen, they mainly compete with Acura for the trust-fund-boy, I'm-so-cool poseur market.
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Infinity was almost a copy of what Toyota did with Lexus. Put a nice name so that people would not its just a Nissan. And my uncle in Delaware keeps dreaming of having one, only to be over-ruled by my aunt :D
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Infiniti started out with tarted up Nissans, but the current ones are dedicated chassis. Front engine, rear drive, fully independent suspension. V6 in the entry level, V8 in the premium. And the trust fund boys run more to BMW and Mercedes unless they have a thing for Japanese cars.
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I love Mercedes and BMW as well as Infinity, they are really a marvelous example of engineering feat, but I have the problem with owners. They think it their Armani, Luis Vutton Suit, a status symbol, absolutely ignorant about everything about the car. And those who know about the car, are worse, they think they are the centre of the universe, and it revolves around him..
Its not jealousy, promise, its just the ignorance and the blindness that hurts..
(Did I mention it hurt as well when I see Wonder Bra models walk along side Bernie >:( )
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Here's the one that bugs me. When I was shopping for a car, I knew more about the ones I was looking at than most of the salesmen I encountered.
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They will never have a chance with you Lonny. You are good, I mean really good with cars, so next time you encounter a salesman, please help the poor chap, give him a tiny bits of insight, so that he could add a little extra sales. God is merciful and He wants us to be so. Because I am sure if you decide to launch an attack, the sales man will have a first hand experience of Superstorm Sandy..
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I've had a look at these Infinity's, oh my god the Japs have no idea about styling compared to European cars. :o
I think BMW's, Mercs, Audi, Alfa's, Jags etc have the edge without doubt.
Never seen an Infinity on the road, ever!
Oi, over here Infinitis are how we spot spoiled rich kids.
Over here it's BMW Minis, one car that bucks the trend I imply above. :sick:
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Styling is a word created and perfected in Europe, you expect others to do the same? Japanese are well known for making cheap and lately efficient cars..
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Styling is a word created and perfected in Europe, you expect others to do the same? Japanese are well known for making cheap and lately efficient cars..
Cheap cars come from Mexico, not Japan :)
And for styling... there's no European car I would choose over an American car.
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And for styling... there's no European car I would choose over an American car.
I guess its more of a size issue rather than styling for you Jeri ;) Definitely American cars are more fitting for you than European cars. :D
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American car v European car styling :D
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American car v European car styling :D
Americans beat you to (and rejected) that 'Alfa' Desgin by 50 years
(http://static.cargurus.com/images/site/2008/04/24/19/48/1958_edsel_ranger-pic-29423.jpeg)
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American car v European car styling, Vol. 2
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My god, how can anyone say American styling can beat an ASTON MARTIN, it beggars belief.
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Aston has done better than Jaguar since they both left Ford. The Aston still look pretty good. The Jags have gotten downright ugly!
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Thought we were looking at an Alfa Romeo? Was that an Aston? ;)
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OMG Jeri what the hell is that thing! You trying to blind someone! :DD
I sorta mean modern American cars, nobody can deny the beauty of some, I stress some American classics. Modern American cars have lost their souls IMO. Bland styling and even worse interiors, that give European cars the edge. Most Japanese cars aren't much better and truth be told the Koreans are the only ones that come close.
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I keep trying to start this post by defending NA cars...but I just can't. Never owned one quite honestly. Closest thing was a Dodge truck I used to have which was actually a Mitsubishi. Other than that it's been VW's until my latest, a Volvo.
NA cars are generally too big, too heavy, too plastic inside, and a generation behind European cars with regards to the latest gadgetry. For example I rented a Cadillac not long ago - it was an upgrade, don't blame me - and it had an automatic window opener. By that I mean an electric window with a two step button that if depressed to the second click, opens the window completely. This was fine and dandy, but then I realized that Cadillac, big, show off-y cars, was too cheap to install the two step buttons for ALL the windows. Even my VW from 2006 had all 4 windows full automatic.
Rant over...
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OMG Jeri what the hell is that thing! You trying to blind someone! :DD
I sorta mean modern American cars, nobody can deny the beauty of some, I stress some American classics. Modern American cars have lost their souls IMO. Bland styling and even worse interiors, that give European cars the edge. Most Japanese cars aren't much better and truth be told the Koreans are the only ones that come close.
Despite my Blue Oval (Ford) roots, I'm not defending the Edsel. I'm just saying that if you're going to hold up a car that looks like an Edsel as an example of 'advanced style', then you're not doing your argument any favours :)
For me, this is the best looking car of all time:
(http://static.cargurus.com/images/site/2007/03/27/09/55/1975_chevrolet_corvette_coupe-pic-9364.jpeg)
I don't care how it handles, or how it is on gas, how damnably narrow the seats are, or how many buttons you need press to put the windows down. Best looking car, ever, in my opinion :-*
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Yuck...The Corvette had beautiful origins, and they figured it out in the more recent years, but that version, let's call it the Corvette's midlife, is IMO the ugliest and worst driving of the whole series.
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I've never really cared for gadgets on cars. I've only had two cars with A/C and power windows, and I didn't buy either of them. I won one in a poker game & inherited the other. The two most useful gadgets I've had on a vehicle are on my Econline. Its got two cup holders large enough for my 64oz Mt. Dews, and when I turn the engine off the stereo continues to play until I open the door!
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Could not possibly own a car without a/c. Had a couple when I was young, but I ain't young anymore, and a car that's been sitting in the 105' sun 6 or 7 hours is unbearable. Don't feel the need for Navigation though.
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Oh I love my gadgets! 8)
I don't even have to turn my own lights on.
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I prefer the classic "4-100" A/C system - 4 windows down & 100 mph!
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Used to use that one in my '68 Firebird, but a 105' wind is still 105'. I'm too old for that these days.
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If you ask me, every car has a soul, a story, a history, a dream of its own.
Great pick Jeri, that is one of the great designs of Corvette.
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Yeah Jeri I quite like that, but to be honest you can't beat the first Vette's. :good:
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Don't feel the need for Navigation though.
Best thing that ever happened in Europe. Try finding anything you've never been to here.
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Don't try them in the UK Scott, you'll be liable to end up anywhere.
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I was never impressed with the first Corvette. The only drivetrain offered was a straight six with a two-speed Powerglide automatic. I've never been a Chevy guy, but I've always liked the 63-67 Stingray. I always thought that the 67+ "Mako Shark" bodied cars looked too cartoonish.
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This is an unwinnable argument because 'style' is all about personal opinion.
I personally like all of the Vettes (even the humble C4) but this is probably partly because we don't get many of them in the UK.
However, most of the North American cars do not get to the UK and when I visit the US and Canada I see some of the ugliest cars ever built and during visits to Japan and China I see even uglier cars. The key thing is, the owners of these 'ugly' cars love them - they selected them and paid big money for them.
In my opinion this is style:-
(http://i363.photobucket.com/albums/oo79/montyquick/T350HylandsLR.jpg)
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Too right monty, no frills or anything except style and raw power. :good:
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This is an unwinnable argument because 'style' is all about personal opinion.
I personally like all of the Vettes (even the humble C4) but this is probably partly because we don't get many of them in the UK.
However, most of the North American cars do not get to the UK and when I visit the US and Canada I see some of the ugliest cars ever built and during visits to Japan and China I see even uglier cars. The key thing is, the owners of these 'ugly' cars love them - they selected them and paid big money for them.
In my opinion this is style:-
(http://i363.photobucket.com/albums/oo79/montyquick/T350HylandsLR.jpg)
I wasn't trying to 'win', or 'lose', just pointing out that someone was suggesting that a car that looked like an Edsel was an example of how European design is superior to American design.
I should suspect most people's idea of a 'beautiful car' would be those cars that generally resemble the cars they saw on the road when they were between the ages of 5 and 10. For me, that's still American land yachts with bold lines designed to convey strength, power and authority. The Corvette of that era would be the default American 'dream car'.
I have no idea what those swoopy lines of European cars are supposed to bring to mind, but as someone reared on 'strength, power and authority', they look like the opposite.
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I didn't really care about the 'argument' it was just an excuse to post a picture of my car ;)
But you are of course right, different people see different things in a car design.
I try never to 'over-think' why I like something and equally I try not to criticise other people's choices (except Schumacher lovers - obviously).
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Awesome car Monty! :good:
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Awesome car Monty!
Thank you - 365BHP; 1050kgs; no ABS or traction control - 'what doesn't kill you makes you smile' :D
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Its great to see your TVR Monty, and I really like the color, because until now all I have ever seen of this beauty is in British racing Green..
Wonder how did you manage to convince Mrs. Monty to have this beauty.. :D
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Nice car. Is that parked in front of Schumacher's house? :D
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Nice car. Is that parked in front of Schumacher's house? :D
:DD :DD :DD :DD :DD
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Thanks for the nice comments (I'm ignoring the Schumacher comment).
You could have TVRs finished in any colour you like. This is from a Mercedes S-Class.
It is my second TVR - had a 4.5litre V8 Chimaera before.
Mrs Monty accepts me having a 'weekend' car because if I didn't, I would probably try to go back to racing and she got fed up hanging around cold, wet paddocks in the past!
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It's truly a beautiful car, Monty. I'll bet it's a blast to drive, too!
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Thanks for the nice comments (I'm ignoring the Schumacher comment).
You could have TVRs finished in any colour you like. This is from a Mercedes S-Class.
It is my second TVR - had a 4.5litre V8 Chimaera before.
Mrs Monty accepts me having a 'weekend' car because if I didn't, I would probably try to go back to racing and she got fed up hanging around cold, wet paddocks in the past!
We had a few TVR's show up last summer at our hotel during a cross-alp tour of a few Brits. Beautiful cars - absolutely love them.
Does anyone have some car club sites they can send me so I can try to post a small ad for our hotel? We have a massive parking lot (no cramped spaces for the cars) and are situated in a good spot between 4 major Swiss, Swiss/Italian and Swiss/French passes. Bonus is the hotel owner is an English speaking motorhead. :D :D
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Thanks for the nice comments (I'm ignoring the Schumacher comment).
You could have TVRs finished in any colour you like. This is from a Mercedes S-Class.
It is my second TVR - had a 4.5litre V8 Chimaera before.
Mrs Monty accepts me having a 'weekend' car because if I didn't, I would probably try to go back to racing and she got fed up hanging around cold, wet paddocks in the past!
We had a few TVR's show up last summer at our hotel during a cross-alp tour of a few Brits. Beautiful cars - absolutely love them.
Does anyone have some car club sites they can send me so I can try to post a small ad for our hotel? We have a massive parking lot (no cramped spaces for the cars) and are situated in a good spot between 4 major Swiss, Swiss/Italian and Swiss/French passes. Bonus is the hotel owner is an English speaking motorhead. :D :D
Might find a few by using this site Scott. There's rather a lot though. :swoon: so good luck.
http://www.ukmotorsport.com/uk_car_clubs.html (http://www.ukmotorsport.com/uk_car_clubs.html)
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Does anyone have some car club sites they can send me so I can try to post a small ad for our hotel? We have a massive parking lot (no cramped spaces for the cars) and are situated in a good spot between 4 major Swiss, Swiss/Italian and Swiss/French passes. Bonus is the hotel owner is an English speaking motorhead.
The TVR owners do a lot of tours organised by the Regional Organisers:-
see the main Car Club site www.tvr-car-club.co.uk