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Title: McLaren and Alonso to race at Indy 500
Post by: Monty on April 12, 2017, 04:14:35 PM
So Alonso will miss Monaco and race the Indy 500 instead. Does this mean that Jenson Button gets the F1 car for Monaco?? I do hope so. All we need is Jenson in a reliable McLaren and perhaps some rain and who knows what will happen.
I have no idea how competitive the Andretti (McLaren) Indy car will be but I certainly wish Alonso lots of luck.
Title: Re: McLaren and Alonso to race at Indy 500
Post by: ChrisCurtis on April 12, 2017, 04:49:57 PM
There's several really positive elements to this story. If it had broken on April fools day I doubt we'd have believed it! I checked twice to see I was reading a genuine BBC news page.

It raises the profile of F1 among the Indy fans and vice versa. I know I'll definitely be tuning into the Indy 500 now to see how he does.

It gives Alonso a bit of a reward for his commitment while McLaren has been floundering.

If Jenson comes back for the race, it's great for the profile of F1 and will create a lot of media interest.

In fact it's hard to see anything negative about it.
Title: Re: McLaren and Alonso to race at Indy 500
Post by: cosworth151 on April 12, 2017, 08:51:11 PM
Maybe it's also a job interview of sorts for next season.
Title: Re: McLaren and Alonso to race at Indy 500
Post by: Andy B on April 12, 2017, 10:24:52 PM
Two things!
Thing 1.
JB is a McLaren Ambassador I don't think he's their reserve driver as he retired from being an F1 driver.
Thing 2.
McLaren need to do something to give Alonso the incentive to stay with them so don't be surprised to also see him do Le Mans as thats his other objective.
Title: Re: McLaren and Alonso to race at Indy 500
Post by: Scott on April 13, 2017, 05:48:38 AM
I thought he said he has a race contract this year.  If they are paying him like a race driver, then they could well expect that he should race.  Though I prefer he doesn't.
Title: Re: McLaren and Alonso to race at Indy 500
Post by: Andy B on April 13, 2017, 07:56:06 AM
I thought he said he has a race contract this year.  If they are paying him like a race driver, then they could well expect that he should race.  Though I prefer he doesn't.

Taken from the McLaren web site: -

The current McLaren-Honda reserve, test & development drivers are Oliver Turvey and Nobuharu Matsushita.

Title: Re: McLaren and Alonso to race at Indy 500
Post by: Monty on April 13, 2017, 09:32:08 AM
Well if they don't give the seat to Jenson they will lose some major financial support ... I will never buy McLaren merchandise ever again!
 :D >:D
Title: Re: McLaren and Alonso to race at Indy 500
Post by: cosworth151 on April 13, 2017, 11:34:53 AM
Two things!
Thing 1.
JB is a McLaren Ambassador I don't think he's their reserve driver as he retired from being an F1 driver.
Thing 2.
McLaren need to do something to give Alonso the incentive to stay with them so don't be surprised to also see him do Le Mans as thats his other objective.

That's probably the reason for the McLaren badging on the car. There might have been something like "I'm racing Indy (and maybe LeMans). The only question is do you want me to come back to F1 after that."
Title: Re: McLaren and Alonso to race at Indy 500
Post by: cosworth151 on April 13, 2017, 11:52:10 AM
I just found this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvJwh9lqJSY
Title: Re: McLaren and Alonso to race at Indy 500
Post by: cosworth151 on April 14, 2017, 11:33:21 AM
How it came about:

http://autoweek.com/article/indy-500/heres-how-f1-great-fernando-alonsos-indy-500-came-together

Jack Harvey was supposed to get the car that Alonso will be in. He'll now get another Honda entered jointly by Andretti and Michael Shank Racing (MSR). Mike heads up Honda's IMSA effort. His team is based in Pataskala, Ohio, a short distance from where I live. In fact, Mike & my boss Scotto are good friends.
Title: Re: McLaren and Alonso to race at Indy 500
Post by: cosworth151 on April 14, 2017, 01:05:30 PM
It's officially Button for Monaco!  :yahoo:

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/headlines/2017/4/f1-button-replace-alonso-monaco.html
Title: Re: McLaren and Alonso to race at Indy 500
Post by: Scott on April 14, 2017, 05:47:40 PM
I'm ok with Button as long as he bites his tongue and doesn't just moan about the car.
Title: Re: McLaren and Alonso to race at Indy 500
Post by: Irisado on April 14, 2017, 08:33:19 PM
I'm not sure that Button will be overly looking forward to driving this year's McLaren-Honda.  Still, he agreed to this reserve contract, and he is the best candidate McLaren have on the books, so it makes sense for him to step in.

I'm happy for Alonso on the one hand, but nervous on the other.  Ovals can bite very hard if you crash and I do feel that he is, therefore, taking a risk.  It also really does show just how much McLaren want to retain Alonso that they are willing to accommodate his wish.  He has taken the car far higher than it has deserved to be for such a long time now that he has earned his opportunity to miss a race for such a high profile event.
Title: Re: McLaren and Alonso to race at Indy 500
Post by: Andy B on April 14, 2017, 10:45:47 PM
Probably the lack of power in the McLaren will benefit at Monaco and its not a grunt circuit so JB, who I said would not race, will be better placed and hopefully quite chilled over the weekend.
A conundrum!
As JB is contracted to race in 2018, if McLaren wish, doing an excellent job at Monaco could increase their interest and I don't think JB will be keen to go back to becoming a full time race driver again.
Title: Re: McLaren and Alonso to race at Indy 500
Post by: cosworth151 on April 15, 2017, 12:02:01 AM
What else could he do this that slug?
Title: Re: McLaren and Alonso to race at Indy 500
Post by: cosworth151 on April 23, 2017, 04:20:26 PM
I'm watching the morning warm-up for the IndyCar race at Skip Barber. Alonso is in the Andretti pit.
Title: Re: McLaren and Alonso to race at Indy 500
Post by: Dare on April 24, 2017, 07:57:19 PM
The one thing that bugs me is if Alonso has any luck
which I'd like to see him win it is Mclaren will get credit where
none is due.Whatever they want to call it it's not a Mclaren Honda
Title: Re: McLaren and Alonso to race at Indy 500
Post by: Jericoke on April 25, 2017, 07:33:58 PM
The one thing that bugs me is if Alonso has any luck
which I'd like to see him win it is Mclaren will get credit where
none is due.Whatever they want to call it it's not a Mclaren Honda

Indy car chassis are 'stock', so it's as much a 'McLaren' as it is an 'Andretti'.  Whoever pays for the chassis gets to name it.  Since McLaren is buying the chassis and Honda is supplying the engine, it's fair to call it a McLaren-Honda.

Second, Andretti is having an awful season  (not McLaren awful mind you, more like... RBR 'awful').  I don't know how involved McLaren will be in the setup of the car (I'm sure there are plenty of frustrated mechanics who would love to join Alonso on a competitive team), but if they do give the team a boost, that would be earned under the McLaren name too.
Title: Re: McLaren and Alonso to race at Indy 500
Post by: cosworth151 on April 25, 2017, 08:55:22 PM
Tony Kanaan's take on Alonso at Indy. It's always fun to hear from T.K.!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oL9jrafwdRQ
Title: Re: McLaren and Alonso to race at Indy 500
Post by: J.Clark on April 28, 2017, 08:31:28 PM
Alonso's seat fitting with Andretti at Barber Motorsports Park in Leeds, Alabama.

I volunteer there each year.  I met the photog who did the photo shoot of the fitting and she gave me this photo.  I also got his autograph on my Volunteer Credential badge, and got selfie of sorts of him hanging it on the fence for me.
Title: Re: McLaren and Alonso to race at Indy 500
Post by: cosworth151 on April 28, 2017, 08:44:38 PM
Outstanding!   :good:
Title: Re: McLaren and Alonso to race at Indy 500
Post by: lkjohnson1950 on April 29, 2017, 12:43:34 AM
 :good: :good: :good:
Title: Re: McLaren and Alonso to race at Indy 500
Post by: cosworth151 on May 02, 2017, 08:48:34 PM
Alonsao's first test at The Speedway will be live streamed at 09:00 Eastern US Time, 13:00 Zulu, Wed, 3 May:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXh9uxthFnk
Title: Re: McLaren and Alonso to race at Indy 500
Post by: cosworth151 on May 03, 2017, 03:26:17 PM
I'm watching the live feed right now. They've got Mario Andretti & Johnny Rutherford doing commentary. Lone Star J.R. is even wearing an orange shirt from his McLaren days.

BTW, Alonso's car is McLaren orange.  :yahoo:
Title: Re: McLaren and Alonso to race at Indy 500
Post by: Jericoke on May 03, 2017, 07:59:08 PM
I'm watching the live feed right now. They've got Mario Andretti & Johnny Rutherford doing commentary. Lone Star J.R. is even wearing an orange shirt from his McLaren days.

BTW, Alonso's car is McLaren orange.  :yahoo:

Mario makes anything better.

The car looks great (*great for an IndyCar)
Title: Re: McLaren and Alonso to race at Indy 500
Post by: Scott on May 03, 2017, 09:57:30 PM
Alonso passed his rookie test but mulched a couple birds along the way.  I would have thought Indy has an effective hawk program, like most airports.

http://blackflag.jalopnik.com/fernando-alonso-kills-two-birds-with-one-indycar-1794889658
Title: Re: McLaren and Alonso to race at Indy 500
Post by: cosworth151 on May 03, 2017, 10:16:49 PM
That's just low-tech Flow Viz.
Title: Re: McLaren and Alonso to race at Indy 500
Post by: Scott on May 04, 2017, 06:41:12 PM
 :DD :DD :DD :DD
Title: Re: McLaren and Alonso to race at Indy 500
Post by: cosworth151 on May 08, 2017, 12:13:21 PM
The streaming of Alonso's rookie test at The Speedway has been viewed over two million times and that number is still climbing. The live stream trended on YouTube and outpaced the trailer for 'The Dark Tower,' a Hollywood adaptation of a Stephen King novel. It also performed better than Jimmy Kimmel’s reveal of his son’s birth and a Chris Rock video.

Further, 30 percent of all web traffic for IndyCar.com originated from Europe.

http://autoweek.com/article/indycar/fernando-alonsos-indy-500-orientation-takes-over-internet
Title: Re: McLaren and Alonso to race at Indy 500
Post by: Scott on May 08, 2017, 12:44:03 PM
The streaming of Alonso's rookie test at The Speedway has been viewed over two million times and that number is still climbing. The live stream trended on YouTube and outpaced the trailer for 'The Dark Tower,' a Hollywood adaptation of a Stephen King novel. It also performed better than Jimmy Kimmel’s reveal of his son’s birth and a Chris Rock video.

Further, 30 percent of all web traffic for IndyCar.com originated from Europe.

http://autoweek.com/article/indycar/fernando-alonsos-indy-500-orientation-takes-over-internet

But Bernie doesn't believe in new media (internet)   :fool: :fool: :fool:

...hope Liberty figure it out.
Title: Re: McLaren and Alonso to race at Indy 500
Post by: Jericoke on May 08, 2017, 03:13:43 PM
The streaming of Alonso's rookie test at The Speedway has been viewed over two million times and that number is still climbing. The live stream trended on YouTube and outpaced the trailer for 'The Dark Tower,' a Hollywood adaptation of a Stephen King novel. It also performed better than Jimmy Kimmel’s reveal of his son’s birth and a Chris Rock video.

Further, 30 percent of all web traffic for IndyCar.com originated from Europe.

http://autoweek.com/article/indycar/fernando-alonsos-indy-500-orientation-takes-over-internet

But Bernie doesn't believe in new media (internet)   :fool: :fool: :fool:

...hope Liberty figure it out.

I'm still amazed at how the tech bubble keeps rolling on.  Companies like Twitter, Facebook and Uber provide amazing services... but they don't really make money, just sucker investors into driving up stock prices.  (I'm a bit surprised that Bernie isn't on board, since FOM is more or less the same business model.)
Title: Re: McLaren and Alonso to race at Indy 500
Post by: Alianora La Canta on May 08, 2017, 10:34:59 PM
I'm still amazed at how the tech bubble keeps rolling on.  Companies like Twitter, Facebook and Uber provide amazing services... but they don't really make money, just sucker investors into driving up stock prices.  (I'm a bit surprised that Bernie isn't on board, since FOM is more or less the same business model.)

Twitter and Uber can be categorised that way, but Facebook makes so much money off its advertisements and data usage that it made $27 billion profit (https://www.wsj.com/articles/facebook-profit-jumps-sharply-1478117646) in a single quarter of 2016. It was funded by IPO chasing (like the other two are now) but is now profitable in its own right, for much the same reason as Google initially became profitable.

In a way, Bernie caught on years ago - he ad-ified F1 and trousered much of the profits that arose from that process.
Title: Re: McLaren and Alonso to race at Indy 500
Post by: John S on May 09, 2017, 10:43:48 AM
But Bernie doesn't believe in new media (internet)   :fool: :fool: :fool:

...hope Liberty figure it out.

Bernie didn't want to give his product for free to profit the big internet companies - which was the route he saw it would end up going. Bernie avoided the internet as he could not figure out how to monetise it for F1.

Too many companies, especially media & newspapers, who gave free access to their product have since struggled to profit from it; in fact some have been dragged under by losing their cash flows. 

As a comparison though, American based racing series making their product available free to the whole world is far different to a whole world sport making itself freely available to the whole world.

     
Title: Re: McLaren and Alonso to race at Indy 500
Post by: Jericoke on May 09, 2017, 05:47:00 PM
I'm still amazed at how the tech bubble keeps rolling on.  Companies like Twitter, Facebook and Uber provide amazing services... but they don't really make money, just sucker investors into driving up stock prices.  (I'm a bit surprised that Bernie isn't on board, since FOM is more or less the same business model.)

Twitter and Uber can be categorised that way, but Facebook makes so much money off its advertisements and data usage that it made $27 billion profit (https://www.wsj.com/articles/facebook-profit-jumps-sharply-1478117646) in a single quarter of 2016. It was funded by IPO chasing (like the other two are now) but is now profitable in its own right, for much the same reason as Google initially became profitable.

In a way, Bernie caught on years ago - he ad-ified F1 and trousered much of the profits that arose from that process.

Misleading headline.  $7B REVENUE in the past quarter projected to be $27b REVENUE for the full year.  No mention of operating expenses in the free part of the story.

I'm disappointed in the WSJ  they used to know better.
Title: Re: McLaren and Alonso to race at Indy 500
Post by: cosworth151 on May 09, 2017, 06:06:57 PM
That's like the fact that Tesla now has a greater market value that Ford or GM. Wall Street (the people who gave us the Great Recession) is way, way out of touch with reality.

Quote
I'm disappointed in the WSJ  they used to know better.

That was before they became part of Fox.
Title: Re: McLaren and Alonso to race at Indy 500
Post by: lkjohnson1950 on May 09, 2017, 08:20:46 PM
Yeah! There was a marked shift in the WSJ when FOX took over, and not for the better.
Title: Re: McLaren and Alonso to race at Indy 500
Post by: Alianora La Canta on May 18, 2017, 12:22:30 AM
I'm still amazed at how the tech bubble keeps rolling on.  Companies like Twitter, Facebook and Uber provide amazing services... but they don't really make money, just sucker investors into driving up stock prices.  (I'm a bit surprised that Bernie isn't on board, since FOM is more or less the same business model.)

Twitter and Uber can be categorised that way, but Facebook makes so much money off its advertisements and data usage that it made $27 billion profit (https://www.wsj.com/articles/facebook-profit-jumps-sharply-1478117646) in a single quarter of 2016. It was funded by IPO chasing (like the other two are now) but is now profitable in its own right, for much the same reason as Google initially became profitable.

In a way, Bernie caught on years ago - he ad-ified F1 and trousered much of the profits that arose from that process.

Misleading headline.  $7B REVENUE in the past quarter projected to be $27b REVENUE for the full year.  No mention of operating expenses in the free part of the story.

I'm disappointed in the WSJ  they used to know better.

OK, looks like that wasn't as good an item as I'd thought. The income from less overenthusiastic sources is rather less (though it is income) - Facebook made about $10 billion net profit across the year of 2016 (http://variety.com/2017/digital/news/facebook-q4-2016-earnings-1201975697/). (Now we can calculate that if WSJ's headline figure is true, then about 5/8ths of Facebook's income ends up going straight into expenses...)

I will try to do better in future - sorry!
Title: Re: McLaren and Alonso to race at Indy 500
Post by: Jericoke on May 18, 2017, 06:20:16 PM
I'm still amazed at how the tech bubble keeps rolling on.  Companies like Twitter, Facebook and Uber provide amazing services... but they don't really make money, just sucker investors into driving up stock prices.  (I'm a bit surprised that Bernie isn't on board, since FOM is more or less the same business model.)

Twitter and Uber can be categorised that way, but Facebook makes so much money off its advertisements and data usage that it made $27 billion profit (https://www.wsj.com/articles/facebook-profit-jumps-sharply-1478117646) in a single quarter of 2016. It was funded by IPO chasing (like the other two are now) but is now profitable in its own right, for much the same reason as Google initially became profitable.

In a way, Bernie caught on years ago - he ad-ified F1 and trousered much of the profits that arose from that process.

Misleading headline.  $7B REVENUE in the past quarter projected to be $27b REVENUE for the full year.  No mention of operating expenses in the free part of the story.

I'm disappointed in the WSJ  they used to know better.

OK, looks like that wasn't as good an item as I'd thought. The income from less overenthusiastic sources is rather less (though it is income) - Facebook made about $10 billion net profit across the year of 2016 (http://variety.com/2017/digital/news/facebook-q4-2016-earnings-1201975697/). (Now we can calculate that if WSJ's headline figure is true, then about 5/8ths of Facebook's income ends up going straight into expenses...)

I will try to do better in future - sorry!

I wouldn't blame you Ali.  WSJ used to be the gold standard for financial reporting.  They may still be... but then the gold standard has slipped considerably.
Title: Re: McLaren and Alonso to race at Indy 500
Post by: J.Clark on May 20, 2017, 01:10:32 PM
Great start for his Indy Car debut and the series' signature event.
Funny little note to go with it is that he was quicker than his old rival Montoya.   :yahoo:

http://www.indycar.com/News/2017/05/05-19-Indy-500-Live
Title: Re: McLaren and Alonso to race at Indy 500
Post by: Scott on May 20, 2017, 02:31:32 PM
he was quicker than his old rival Montoya.

That would be worth a bit of a grin for Fernando...
Title: Re: McLaren and Alonso to race at Indy 500
Post by: J.Clark on May 21, 2017, 01:05:58 AM
At day's end, after rain delays and a mid-session crash clean up, Fernando not only qualified for the race, but is in the "Fast Nine" for the pole shoot-out.  Montoya didn't make that elite group of nine.

The fastest nine qualifiers on Saturday, and therefore those who will compete for the Verizon P1 Award on Sunday are as follows:

1) Ed Carpenter - 230.468 mph

2) Takuma Sato - 230.382 mph

3) Scott Dixon - 230.333 mph

4) JR Hildebrand - 230.205 mph

5) Alexander Rossi - 230.148 mph

6) Will Power - 230.072 mph

7) Fernando Alonso - 230.034 mph

8 ) Tony Kanaan - 230.007 mph

9) Marco Andretti - 229.924 mph

The 33-car field will have the opportunity to fine-tune their setups early Sunday afternoon, with practice from 12 - 12:45 p.m. (Saturday qualifiers 10-33) and 1:15 - 2 p.m. (Fast Nine qualifiers). Coverage of the second day of qualifications for the 101st Indianapolis 500 presented by PennGrade Motor Oil begins on WatchESPN 2:30 - 4 p.m., with television coverage beginning on ABC at 4 p.m., beginning with Group 1 qualifications to determine positions 10-33, followed by the Fast Nine Shootout to determine who will lead the field to the green flag on Sunday May 28 for The Greatest Spectacle in Racing.
Title: Re: McLaren and Alonso to race at Indy 500
Post by: lkjohnson1950 on May 21, 2017, 01:40:15 AM
Bourdais had turned 2 of the days fastest laps when he bobbled in turn 2.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2R7LtbJlqUQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2R7LtbJlqUQ)
Title: Re: McLaren and Alonso to race at Indy 500
Post by: J.Clark on May 21, 2017, 11:24:56 AM
Glad, having watched the crash, that he is basically alright.  He won't be in the 500, nor the next few races.

http://www.indystar.com/story/sports/motor/2017/05/20/sebastien-bourdais-suffers-violent-crash-indy-500-qualifying/332685001/

I don't mean to turn this into a Sebastian Bourdais thread, but thought this important to the topic.
Title: Re: McLaren and Alonso to race at Indy 500
Post by: J.Clark on May 21, 2017, 11:07:00 PM
Fantastic job by Fernando in the Fast Nine qualifying session.
The first three rows for Sunday's Indianapolis 500 will roll off as follows:

Row 1

1) Scott Dixon - 232.164 mph

2) Ed Carpenter - 231.664 mph

3) Alexander Rossi - 231.487 mph

Row 2

4) Takuma Sato - 231.365 mph

5) Fernando Alonso - 231.300 mph

6) JR Hildebrand - 230.889 mph

Row 3

7) Tony Kanaan - 230.828 mph

8) Marco Andretti - 230.474 mph

9) Will Power - 230.200 mph
Title: Re: McLaren and Alonso to race at Indy 500
Post by: Irisado on May 27, 2017, 10:39:24 AM
Such an impressive performance from Alonso.  It shows just how much of a class driver he is, as it's a demanding place to make a debut in Indycar.
Title: Re: McLaren and Alonso to race at Indy 500
Post by: Dare on May 28, 2017, 08:38:05 PM
Alonso showed he had what it takes to win unfortunately his
Honda engine problems followed him to Indy. Great performance
all the same..Get a Chevy next time
Title: Re: McLaren and Alonso to race at Indy 500
Post by: J.Clark on May 28, 2017, 10:25:08 PM
He was actually in contention for a win until he became the third victim of Honda engine failure.   :-[
Title: Re: McLaren and Alonso to race at Indy 500
Post by: J.Clark on June 01, 2017, 11:12:34 AM
http://www.express.co.uk/sport/f1-autosport/811418/Indy-500-Fernando-Alonso-speech-fans-Rookie-of-the-Year-award-dinner
Title: Re: McLaren and Alonso to race at Indy 500
Post by: jimclark on June 01, 2017, 05:37:12 PM
Alonso showed he had what it takes to win unfortunately his
Honda engine problems followed him to Indy. Great performance
all the same..Get a Chevy next time

Why? A Honda won....'just not his. 'Crap shoot in a one chassis, 2 engine series. ;)
Title: Re: McLaren and Alonso to race at Indy 500
Post by: cosworth151 on June 01, 2017, 08:56:58 PM
Hammy had to flap his jaw about IndyCar. He said that the fact that Alonso qualified 5th proved that it wasn't a top series.

He should know better than to dis a series that has Tony Kanaan:

"What can I say. The guy competed in a two-car world championship last year and was second, so I don't think he can say much. It was a pleasure to have Fernando here. He is humble, not like some of his colleagues who were making comments this month."

Rock on, TK!   :yahoo:

Title: Re: McLaren and Alonso to race at Indy 500
Post by: Jericoke on June 01, 2017, 10:51:06 PM
Hammy had to flap his jaw about IndyCar. He said that the fact that Alonso qualified 5th proved that it wasn't a top series.

He should know better than to dis a series that has Tony Kanaan:

"What can I say. The guy competed in a two-car world championship last year and was second, so I don't think he can say much. It was a pleasure to have Fernando here. He is humble, not like some of his colleagues who were making comments this month."

Rock on, TK!   :yahoo:

I haven't seen Lewis's comments in context.  It's not uncommon for stars in one league to 'trash talk' other leagues, not so much out of animosity, but boilerplate 'us vs them'.

Of course, if we're bagging on Hamilton, Norris McDonald had a great line: 
Quote
Lewis Hamilton took a shot at Alonso and the whole Indy car scene in a French newspaper. Poor Lewis. He’s so close to being a has-been and he doesn’t know it - yet.
https://www.thestar.com/sports/auto-racing/2017/05/29/too-bad-101st-indy-500-wasnt-the-100th-mcdonald.html (https://www.thestar.com/sports/auto-racing/2017/05/29/too-bad-101st-indy-500-wasnt-the-100th-mcdonald.html)
Title: Re: McLaren and Alonso to race at Indy 500
Post by: Alianora La Canta on June 02, 2017, 01:47:07 PM
Hammy had to flap his jaw about IndyCar. He said that the fact that Alonso qualified 5th proved that it wasn't a top series.

He should know better than to dis a series that has Tony Kanaan:

"What can I say. The guy competed in a two-car world championship last year and was second, so I don't think he can say much. It was a pleasure to have Fernando here. He is humble, not like some of his colleagues who were making comments this month."

Rock on, TK!   :yahoo:

I haven't seen Lewis's comments in context.  It's not uncommon for stars in one league to 'trash talk' other leagues, not so much out of animosity, but boilerplate 'us vs them'.

Of course, if we're bagging on Hamilton, Norris McDonald had a great line: 
Quote
Lewis Hamilton took a shot at Alonso and the whole Indy car scene in a French newspaper. Poor Lewis. He’s so close to being a has-been and he doesn’t know it - yet.
https://www.thestar.com/sports/auto-racing/2017/05/29/too-bad-101st-indy-500-wasnt-the-100th-mcdonald.html (https://www.thestar.com/sports/auto-racing/2017/05/29/too-bad-101st-indy-500-wasnt-the-100th-mcdonald.html)

Also, Lewis qualified 4th for his first F1 race. Does that make F1 a lesser series than Indycars?
Title: Re: McLaren and Alonso to race at Indy 500
Post by: Andy B on June 05, 2017, 10:59:42 AM
Hammy had to flap his jaw about IndyCar. He said that the fact that Alonso qualified 5th proved that it wasn't a top series.

He should know better than to dis a series that has Tony Kanaan:

"What can I say. The guy competed in a two-car world championship last year and was second, so I don't think he can say much. It was a pleasure to have Fernando here. He is humble, not like some of his colleagues who were making comments this month."

Rock on, TK!   :yahoo:

I haven't seen Lewis's comments in context.  It's not uncommon for stars in one league to 'trash talk' other leagues, not so much out of animosity, but boilerplate 'us vs them'.

Of course, if we're bagging on Hamilton, Norris McDonald had a great line: 
Quote
Lewis Hamilton took a shot at Alonso and the whole Indy car scene in a French newspaper. Poor Lewis. He’s so close to being a has-been and he doesn’t know it - yet.
https://www.thestar.com/sports/auto-racing/2017/05/29/too-bad-101st-indy-500-wasnt-the-100th-mcdonald.html (https://www.thestar.com/sports/auto-racing/2017/05/29/too-bad-101st-indy-500-wasnt-the-100th-mcdonald.html)

Also, Lewis qualified 4th for his first F1 race. Does that make F1 a lesser series than Indycars?

Lewis had probably done a season in the simulator!
Title: Re: McLaren and Alonso to race at Indy 500
Post by: Irisado on June 10, 2017, 01:14:04 PM
An excellent performance by Alonso.  This demonstrates his calibre and that his skills are being utterly wasted by the poor Honda engine in the McLaren.  It's really tough to deliver that level of performance at the Indy500, which makes his performance even more noteworthy.  Hamilton's comments are very inappropriate in my opinion.
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