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F1 News & Discussions => General F1 Discussion => Topic started by: raindancer on February 14, 2010, 05:18:18 PM
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We all know that Mclaren, Ferrari, Mercedes and Red bull are the teams to beat. They have done well, testing confirms it so far inspite of Ross Brawn's modesty. So will these teams dominate everything or could there be a some dark horses lurking behind to usurp the position of frontrunners.
In my opinion Sauber, Force India and Toro Rosso seem as likely dark horses. What do you all think ?
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I have to go with the heart and say... Williams :D
Aside from them, I think Force India could throw in a few surprises again.
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Force India :D
Also Sauber. Williams might spring a surprise too, but the evidence so far is inconclusive. Hopefully the signs will be more unambiguously positive in later tests.
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I hope the combination of Sauber and Kobi will throw a few wrenches in the works for the big teams. We'll see. I still will be betting on Vettel though.
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I think the Williams squad might have a surprise or two up their sleeves. Sauber is a bit harder to figure out at this point, but I think they have potential.
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I think the Williams squad might have a surprise or two up their sleeves. Sauber is a bit harder to figure out at this point, but I think they have potential.
Good to see a man who is in no way biased about Williams Cosworth ;) backing my boys this year :good:
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My choice for dark horses who have to be Sauber. Well they have got Ferrari power for this year and a impressive driver in Kobayashi.
Wouldn't mind seeing Williams doing well too.
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I hope the combination of Sauber and Kobi will throw a few wrenches in the works for the big teams. We'll see. I still will be betting on Vettel though.
My thoughts exactly.
Kobi's my boy... but it's going to be Vettel's year
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I think Renault may suprise a bit this season, Kubica is hungry and they reputedly have the most fuel efficient engine so a bit less weight. The bright yellow paint must be worth a couple of tenths on it's own. ;)
I'm not sure if Sauber can keep up but admit it has shown a good turn of speed. The other one to watch as far as I can see is Williams, they will surely be the best of the Cosworth teams, provided they can lick the reliability issues that have been showing up in testing.
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Sauber for sure, Force India could be quite good to
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More interesting I think is who out of the new boys will perform?
I hope Lotus can get the job done, not that I am bias, what I dont want to see is a few cars getting lapped after ten or fifteen laps in.
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Sauber :good:
I really hope that Lotus come up trumps though.
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I think Williams might go ok this year and Hulkenberg might turn a few heads.
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I kind of missed Williams. But I think they are too serious a team to try for a time when they testing, so they may and hopefully spring a few surprises this season.
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Force India, Sauer and why not Ferrari. ;)
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I suppose Ferrari are always the dark horses because they have a black prancing horse on their emblem ;)
Seriously, I think they are going to have a fairly large improvement unless something ridiculous happens (which it almost certainly won't, given that Massa and Alonso have shown little sign of tension and the team burned through its bad luck last year).
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IMO Ferrari is one of the favourites this year.
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IMO Ferrari is one of the favourites this year.
This could be the year where there are the most 'good' teams... also the most 'bad' teams.
Which teams will be in the middle? STR? Force India? Renault?
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my thought
A Mclaren
Red Bull
Merceses
Ferrari
B+ Renault
Sauber
B Force India
Williams
C Toro Rosso
D Lotus
F Virgin
Campos
USF1
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my thought
A Mclaren
Red Bull
Merceses
Ferrari
B+ Renault
Sauber
B Force India
Williams
C Toro Rosso
D Lotus
F Virgin
Campos
USF1
Seems about right to me.
For completeness, I'd slot in Stefan as C+. I want to believe that Toyota's chasis has a Honda/Brawn like surprise in it.
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my thought
A Mclaren
Red Bull
Merceses
Ferrari
B+ Renault
Sauber
B Force India
Williams
C Toro Rosso
D Lotus
F Virgin
Campos
USF1
Only ones I would swap round would be Williams to B+ and Renault to C. The rest is pretty much spot on IMO.
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I reckon B is right for Williams, possibly actually going into C right now due to an apparent problem with the car failing quite a bit in testing. Happened again today with the Hulk. I'd also put Virgin with Lotus right now as both teams are around the same but I expect Lotus to pick up during the season.
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That was a good one dare. I wonder about Renault though in the B category and think this year also they will struggle. C is probably accurate IMO for Renault.
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That was a good one dare. I wonder about Renault though in the B category and think this year also they will struggle. C is probably accurate IMO for Renault.
With the talk of the Renault engine being so efficient, it might give them an edge that a disorganised team might not otherwise have.
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Good call about the Renault engine Jeri, I think it could work for them, at least push them to the top of the midfield package.
I see that Williams had another stoppage out on track today, I really think I will move them into Dare's C group!
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Best to get your gremlins out of the car in testing, remember "if it doesn't kill you it just makes you stronger" Williamsfan.
I see Virgin being more midfield than Dare's chart suggests, John Booth at Manor has a very strong track record in other open wheel formula so I'm certain they will pull it all together after a few races. I feel Virgin, Torro Rosso, Lotus and possibly Sauber will all be having a good scrap by mid season.
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Very true John! I think I am trying to not be too optimistic this year though. Every year recently I feel that we have a good chance of winning a race and come up way short. So perhaps if I think the car is unreliable and slow, good things might happen!
I agree about Virgin, I reckon once they've got their car more reliable, they'll be okay.