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F1 News & Discussions => General F1 Discussion => Topic started by: Dare on July 06, 2008, 05:12:10 PM
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heros
Hamilton-give the devil his due,ran away from the field
Heidfeld-nice run up the field for 2nd
Barrichello-what can I say,3rd in a Honda,nice to see
Ruebens on the podium
honorable mention
Trulli-getting the Toyota in the points dispite
a horrible Fri and Sat
Zeros
Kovalainen-blew his first pole position and my gg pick
Webber-ditto,doesn't help to qualify 2nd if you can't keep
from spinning more than once
Button-just being Button and being showed up by Ruebens
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Heroes
Hamilton - won by a minute easily - lapped his team mate and everyone else not on the podium including all his championship rivals.
Heidfeld - showed that Kubica is not going to blow him away
Barrichello - Awesome on the extreme wets - beat a stack of drivers with better equipment
Zeros
Massa - 5 or 6 spins
Ferrari / Raikkonen - for the decision not to change tyres
Anyone of another half dozen drivers who were shown up by their team mate.
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heros
Hamilton- hate to admit it but he drove a superb race to win by more than a minute
Barrichello- brilliant drive to take third (maybe a win if it didn't stop raining and he didn't have to come in again)
Heidfeld- good drive to take third
zeros
Ferrari- they were stupid for not bringing in Raikkonen and changing tyres
Webber- threw away the start by spinning then there were brief moments when he was faster than everybody else
Massa- he spun so many times he should have just parked it and got out
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Hero's
Hamilton - a real Senna drive, love him or hate him, the boy got the job done - in style.
Heidfeld - great drive, overtaking two cars at a time - twice!
Zeros
Ferrari - an unusual mistake from them, Kimi could have won if it wasn't for his team!
Kovalainen - blew his chance, the mans in a McLaren, he should have had a podium by now and today was his best chance.
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Kimi showed class by not blaming anyone
on the tire mistake,he said sometimes the
teams get their decisions right and sometimes
they don't.
Have to agree with ou on Heikki,Ferrari drivers
have both won races while only Lewis has
at Merc.He'd better up his performance
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Kovalainen has had some real bad luck at mclaren he needs to turn his season around
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Heros
Lewis - for pulling it off
Ross Brawn (I guess) - for pulling it off
Nick - for fun racing to the podium!
Honourable mention - although it didn't work out in the end, Webber drove a great run from last before it fell apart in the heavy rain.
Zeros
Massa - lucky he didn't hit or worse yet, get hit. 6 or 7? No way, my son and I counted at least 8 spins. He should have considered parking it by half-way.
Heikki - gotta work on that defence.
Kubica - oops.
Massa - I just felt like mentioning him again.
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i can understand, massa was crap
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Button-just being Button and being showed up by Ruebens
Hey Dare that's one of my favourite drivers you are talking about. I spend a lot of my time finding excuses for him but he had overtaken Ruebens on the track, it wasn't his fault he ended up queuing behind Ruebens in the pits and his departure was a car failure so surely not a zero.
Lewis and Nick were brilliant but Kovalainen really let himself down and Ferrari were all at sea!
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I have just read that Honda found nothing wrong with Jensens car and it seems he just aquaplaned off. There goes another excuse. However, just before crashing he was the fastest man on the track. I'm sure Murray Walker could have come up with some great words.....and Jensen Button is the fastest man that used to be on the track....
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I'd like to give mention to Rosberg as a zero for again being beaten by Nakajima and for again losing a front wing. The boy seems to not be able to read what is going on in front of him lately.
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Heroes:
Hamilton: He lived up to the hype and owned the race, in bad, changing conditions.
Rubens: The ol' boy proved he's still got it, even in a bad car.
BRDC: For putting on another classic race.
Honorable Mention:
DC: For publicly stating that the lap 1 shunt wih Vettel was his fault, and going down to the STR pit to apologize to him and the team.
Hare: That poor rabbit that Massa almost nailed at the end of one of his spins!
Losses:
Massa: He's off being treated for dizziness after spending so much time spinning.
Webber: Blew the best chance he ever had.
Bernie: Ruining an otherwise great week-end by his poorly timed announcement
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Looks like I missed a b fine race!
I decided to watch roger FEDERER and rafael NADAL [at a friend's house he has a wide screen plasma HD TV and decent reception!] contest the Wimbledon tennis final and that meant I did not see the GP.
Impressive win by LH by all accounts but where did RB come from? B amazing or is that saying something else about the lack of driving skill of the others as most of them are in far better cars?
I must read about the race as what happened to the FERRARI boys as I see FERRARI have apologised to FM and KR was given the 'wrong' tyres at one point.
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Hey SM, Ferrari apologizing to Massa is just spin. Massa should just stay at home next time it rains.
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Hey SM, Ferrari apologizing to Massa is just spin. Massa should just stay at home next time it rains.
yeah and thanks SD - looks like that could apply to most of 'em.
how else do you explain RB getting third in a pig of a HONDA? Perhaps ross BRAWN making a difference already and Rubens' mastery in the wet although I see RB insisted on extreme wets at the right time.
good on LH - from what I have read his driving was very impressive, reminds me of ayrton SENNA's wet driving mastery
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ross brawn seems to be the right person to take the job at BAR as he has proved he can get BAR podiums from the expierance with Schumacher and ferrari and all the stratigies choices he made
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ross brawn seems to be the right person to take the job at BAR as he has proved he can get BAR podiums from the expierance with Schumacher and ferrari and all the stratigies choices he made
Honda hasn't been BAR for years
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shut up dare :DntKnw: you know what i mean
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Sometimes I think of Honda as Tyrrell, even if Ken wouldn't recognise the team in its current state...
Heroes
Heidfeld - Excellent run to 2nd, stylish double-passing moves and made the tyres work in conditions where only Kubica and Hamilton could match his pace. (In case you're wondering, Heidfeld is ahead of Hamilton in my estimation because he didn't go off-track at any point).
Hamilton - You can't argue with a victory margin of over a minute, especially when it was done despite McLaren giving Lewis a sub-optimal strategy. Even so, he did go off-track at least once and possibly twice.
Barrichello - Stylish run to third, despite the Intertechnique fuel rig's best efforts to thwart his progress. Good to see him so delighted with his deserved podium.
Zeroes
Massa - The last time anyone spun five times in the same race was... ...Massa in the... ...British Grand Prix of 2002. Something about Felipe and Silverstone just doesn't click for some reason (to his credit, last time round he did all that spinning in the dry...)
Webber - ruined front-row start with major spin on lap 1 and two more spins later on.
Kubica - good running for the first part of the race tarnished by three off-track moments in the space of six laps, cumulating in retirement.
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webber does seem to throw away his starts like malaysia 04 where he went from 2nd to 18th
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Heroes - the top 3. Lewis was brilliant throughout. Nick showed his worth, and Rubens took advantage of a gamble and didn't waste the opportunity.
Zeroes - Definately Massa beats them all on that one. Coulthard I'm afraid, and then I suppose FERRARI. I was watching with my brother in law - both been F1 nuts for ..... too many years. When LH and KR were on their way in for their first stops, we both agreed - a new set of intermediates for both.
What on earth posessed Ferrari, but even worse why did they keep him out there so long losing over 5 seconds a lap.
I have to say I admired Kimi's alegiance with the team. He didn't tell them where to go during the press conference as I expected him to do, but he actually tried to cover it up. He's certainly learnt a bit about being a team player. Can somebody please send Nando on a similar crash course. ;)
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I would like to add another hero. Alianora LaCanta who has developed a quite incredible spreadsheet which forecast the front row at Silverstone would be Kovalainen-Webber. I have no idea how she does it and I don't know anyone else who got close to being right.
Well done Ali.
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I had Kovy for pole, not webber on the front row too tho'
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Steven, my predicative capacities would have been more impressive if I'd adjusted my Grid Game predictions accordingly...
The spreadsheet (which lives in Sidepodcast.com's drop.io section (http://drop.io/sidepodcast?page=1)) is called a "Practise-Qualifying-Race Comparitor"*. I throw in each practise, qualifying and race result in a separate sheet and sort them by driver name, leaving gaps for the Super Aguri duo in those races where they haven't competed. There's another sheet called "Quali", where I do the calculations to allow the "Conclusions" spreadsheet to work properly.
The "Conclusions" spreadsheets has several jobs. The bit that Steven's talking about is in the bottom-left hand corner. Firstly, the spreadsheet calculates the difference between each driver's average practise result and qualifying result (giving a separate number for each session). A minus means that the practise session result is, on average, worse than the qualifying position, whereas a positive means that the practise session is, on average, better than the qualifying position.
It is then necessary to do a bit of manual calculation. First, I look at which of the sessions gives the most accurate results (this is the number nearest to 0 for a particular driver). Then I check what position the driver had for that session. After that, it's a calculation of the position obtained plus the adjustment that's taken so long to calculate. The result is meaningful only in comparison to the other drivers' results. The lowest number is the pole-sitter and the highest starts last (in theory - apart from Kovalainen and Webber I only got two exactly right: Massa and Nakajima).
* - I suspect "comparitor" may not feature in the dictionary.
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Steven, my predicative capacities would have been more impressive if I'd adjusted my Grid Game predictions accordingly........................The "Conclusions" spreadsheets has several jobs...........[snip]..........................* - I suspect "comparitor" may not feature in the dictionary.
b brilliant ALC! - and the comparitor deserves to be a real word but may I suggest you copyright/patent it and your app before it and you become so famous it will become a recognised word and a useful application!
well done ALC.
[Now to actually use the thing to understand it - I am a bit lost with spreadsheets. Duh. Lol!]
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well done ali i didn't now that was your prediction you must have psyhic powers
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Mitch, I can assure you that I'm not psychic (a brief look at my Grid Game performance this year will convince doubters) and that I simply have a piece of complicated software that helps in a mechanistic way.