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Author Topic: Will Mazepin be excluded?  (Read 1723 times)

Offline Robem64

Will Mazepin be excluded?
« on: March 01, 2022, 04:50:12 PM »
Given the stance of many, many other sports and their exclusion of Russian athletes surely the FIA will have to take a similar decision in relation to Mazepin?

https://www.planetf1.com/news/fia-emergency-meeting-could-nikita-mazepin-banned/


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Offline cosworth151

Re: Will Mazepin be excluded?
« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2022, 06:27:07 PM »
No matter what the FIA decide, Niki may be gone. If Daddy's checks go away, so will he.
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Re: Will Mazepin be excluded?
« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2022, 07:29:13 PM »
No matter what the FIA decide, Niki may be gone. If Daddy's checks go away, so will he.


Maybe get a American driver for a American team? Herta comes  to
mind. And how much will the sanctions against Russia hurt his sponsor
« Last Edit: March 01, 2022, 07:39:10 PM by Dare »
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Re: Will Mazepin be excluded?
« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2022, 09:22:23 PM »
Think Cossie is right and Haas will either dump or lose its sponsorship meaning Mazepin will lose his drive. I'm sure the FIA will prefer that to happen rather than having make a decision themselves.  :(

Dare, I think Steiner at Haas has already confirmed that Pietro Fittipaldi is the front running choice for replacing Nikita, if necessary.
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Offline lkjohnson1950

Re: Will Mazepin be excluded?
« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2022, 10:42:11 PM »
You're right about Fittipaldi being next up John. Since most websites seem to agree that Haas has not made any gains under the new rules, I'm not sure I would like Herta to go there.
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Offline Robem64

Re: Will Mazepin be excluded?
« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2022, 09:36:45 AM »
Well I personally think this is a complete cop-out! Neutral flag!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/motorsport/60581292
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Online Jericoke

Re: Will Mazepin be excluded?
« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2022, 02:08:24 PM »
Well I personally think this is a complete cop-out! Neutral flag!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/motorsport/60581292

I agree, it is a bit of a cop out, however most other exclusions are for athletes competing FOR Russia.  With F1 you're just competing for your team.  Banning Mazepin would be like banning any Russian players in the Premier League (I'm not following that.. .are there any and are they banned?)

It would also mean that ANY Russian engineers/technicians would need to be banned from F1. 

I don't have a problem with that level of ban at all.

Also, I wouldn't want to see Mazepin banned because of the crimes of his father (not that I'm suggesting Dmitry is doing anything 'wrong'  It's easy to assume a Russian Oligarch is some sort of gangster, but I don't know).  A few other drivers on the grid have less than stellar parents in the eyes of the law, and we don't take it out on them either.

Offline Robem64

Re: Will Mazepin be excluded?
« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2022, 04:32:26 PM »
Further developments.......Mazepin won't be allowed to race in GB....and the inference is that Haas will be severing links with him anyway. Maybe the FIA suspected this in announcing their decision.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/60586914
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Offline cosworth151

Re: Will Mazepin be excluded?
« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2022, 07:06:10 PM »
It's the same thing the Olympics did for Russian athletes after they banned the Russian team for steroid use. As for Dmitry, I've read that he is a confidant of Putin.

I don't think that individual Russian citizens should be penalized for the actions of their government. Under the system over there, they have far less say in their government than citizens of democracies.
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