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F1 News & Discussions => General F1 Discussion => Topic started by: markb on April 05, 2010, 09:21:33 PM
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brimstone says...
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I have worked out how to watch F1...... The Viewers Guide to viewing F1 2010. Important !!! the qualy sessions are a must see. It is the only time that you get to see the cars showing real speed and potential. The race, view the first 5 or 6 laps for any early incidents, then press Record. View something else, mow the lawn, have a kip or read War and Peace Then come back latter and you can view the rest in fast forward, stopping if something interesting happens. Then play back the last 5 or six laps at normal speed. Bingo........... Forget Bernie's shortcuts, kers or an increase revs overtake button. If every car has that then nothing changes. The powers that be have sanitised my favourite sport to the point of bye bye audience. Stupid street circuits Valencia and Singapore , stupid tyre rules, and other restrictions that just make me go Why ??? Bring back refuelling
Posted: 05/04/10 6:45pm ... :crazy:
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So what's new my son, who is now 24, has watched F1 that way for at least 5 or 6 years so brimstone must either be over a certain age or slow on the uptake. :D
Just for reference my son stayed the whole way through the Melbourne race this year, undoutably it will go down as a classic, :good: back to normal at Maylasia and disappeared off about lap 11. ::)
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I have a confession to make....
When I first started watching F1 right around the time Michael Schumacher burst onto the scene (gawd, don't remind me how painful that was! I don't really know why but I was never a fan during his heyday) I would get up at 3AM faithfully, sometimes driving great distances to seek out other F1 watchers, and watch the entire race.
With the advent of the PVR (or DVR or TIVO depending on where you live) I've started recording the race. I'm not too worried about having the results spoiled before I watch since over here in North America you're hard pressed to get any mention of F1 ANYWHERE on TV or radio except race day and even then its a quick 15 second blurb about who won. In the last few years when its obvious I'm watching a parade I press my 30-second skip button and reduce the race down to about a 15 minute experience. Am I bummed out I might be missing anything? Not really, what's to miss? Another 4 second pit stop? YAWN! Another radio session between the driver and whoever tells them to go faster? YAWN! But I am concerned I may miss a great quote or two from Martin Brundle!
Somebody give Murray Walker a few mil to come back and I'll definately watch the whole race. For me, he always will be the voice of F1!
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I have to say I usually don't miss a lap of any weekend no matter how dull the race can be. Now that the BBC's coverage is so good this can include all three pratice sessions. :crazy:
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I try to catch the entire weekend if I possibly can and usually succeed. It's generally worth the effort.
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I know some races can be dull but you never know when something will happen and seeing it in record just isnt the same. There is always the risk of a mate texting you the result too before you have seen it, how annoying would that be!! grrr Most races are always worth watching for me though anyway as Alonso is nearly always at the front :D and its always worth listening to Hamiltons radio when he isnt winning for a laugh too hehehe :p
jugirl
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The best situation then is to find friends who don't like F1 (or not to give your mobile number to F1 fanatics ;) ) or to just have no friends at all :D Then you can watch recordings of races without interruption!
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I know some races can be dull but you never know when something will happen and seeing it in record just isnt the same. There is always the risk of a mate texting you the result too before you have seen it, how annoying would that be!! grrr Most races are always worth watching for me though anyway as Alonso is nearly always at the front :D and its always worth listening to Hamiltons radio when he isnt winning for a laugh too hehehe :p
jugirl
I think you must be watching different GP's to the rest of us when you say "Alonso is nearly always at the front" :DntKnw: :DD...as regards Hamilton's radio broadcasts, we "nearly always" hear him congratulating all his team for all the good work they have done......after winning or finishing on the podium. He (LH), has certainly been on the podium more times than Alonso over the past 2 years or so, and he cetainly made Alonso look quite ordinary when he was no.2 at Mclaren!
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Right i feel i must step in here. Firstly Alonso has won a race this year, massa has finished 2nd, both are right at the top of the table and ferrari are winning the constructors. How many has Lewis won this year? been on the podium this year? one third place i believe. Congratulations to his team? " this was a really bad idea guys" remember him saying that??? And he was only off the pace because Renault were so poor!! ie Lewis last year in a rubbish McLaren
As for Williams i think its good having mates with similiar interest UNLESS they text you saying JB has won the race when you are planning on watching the re run of the australian grand prix, so jugirl i totally agree! its bloomihg annoying!! hehe
Wasnt really quite sure what you meant by your message williams either surely its good to have friends with your number with similiar interests. I for one would love to watch a race with jugirl so we could cheer the Ferraris on to a double championship leaving silver rubbish in there wake :D hehehe
andyb
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Calm down buddy, I'm sure Jugirl can speak for herself! Let's wait and see who finishes where at the end of the season..... "It's not a Sprint, but a Marathon" :tease:: ::)
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Thanks for sticking up for me Andyb. Yes mark it is a marathon but getting a good start is essential. Look at JB last year, he fell over the line in the end but his incredible start got him there. If Ferrari can still be top after the next three races they will be hard to catch. Anyway if anyone does catch them it wont be lewis :p hehe
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Andy, it was a joke, if you have no F1 fans as friends then you can watch recordings of races after they have happened without fear of finding out the result before you finish watching it.
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Thanks for sticking up for me Andyb. Yes mark it is a marathon but getting a good start is essential. Look at JB last year, he fell over the line in the end but his incredible start got him there. If Ferrari can still be top after the next three races they will be hard to catch. Anyway if anyone does catch them it wont be lewis :p hehe
I think you will find this season's story somewhat different from last year - Button "ran away" with the first 6/7 races - This year's start has been quite mixed, and if you'd care to look at the table thus far, the difference in points for the first six or so drivers is minimal, especially with the new points system, and a more closely matched cars....
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It is close so far this season but from a Mclaren perspective mark you must be fearing the other teams inventing their own F wings?? This will only put you further on the back foot. The only real fear i have from a Ferrari supporter point of view is the Red Bull of Vettel. Hopefully that will encounter the errattic nature with its own engines it did last season then it will be Ferrari all the way :D
Williams sorry i must have mis read your message, it still didnt stop me wanting to hit my mate for spoinling the race though :D from now on the phone stays off !!
Jugirl "fell over the line" comment about JB....LMAO he literally did fall over the line and only just managed that haha
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Yeah ok Andyb whatever you say mate....! :DntKnw:....p.s I can just picture the Whole of the Mclaren team, including Whitmarsh.....knees trembling 'cause other teams are "trying" to design their own F-ducts....NOT!
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Wow, I go away for a few weeks and come back to a massive Ferrari/McLaren war of words! You're all selfishly caught up in your own little worlds! Will you not think of the children?! And by children I mean HRT, Virgin and Lotus! And more importantly poor old Williamsfan?! His team used to be right up there with McLaren and Ferrari and yet you are making him try and take sides, cruel, very cruel.
Oh and for what its worth, my money was on Alonso for the title, Massa is a great guy but has a back seat driver to guide him everywhere, Lewis is right up there with Alonso, Button is doing a great job but is definitely turning into Chris Martin from Coldplay.
Also to nail my colours to the mast, if I had to choose a team out of the 2, under Todt & Dennis, it would have been McLaren. Now with the new team principles and new attitudes it's a closer call. I guess the way you'd look at it would be you'd want to be in a McLaren for most of your career as they are exactly what modern F1 is all about, slick, professional etc. But for one season at least you'd want to drive for Ferrari as they are what F1 was all about, history, passion etc. Having said that I respect McLaren more than I respect Ferrari, thats changing now Todt is gone mind you. So McLaren for me by a Schumacher nose cone.
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Wow, I go away for a few weeks and come back to a massive Ferrari/McLaren war of words! You're all selfishly caught up in your own little worlds! Will you not think of the children?! And by children I mean HRT, Virgin and Lotus! And more importantly poor old Williamsfan?! His team used to be right up there with McLaren and Ferrari and yet you are making him try and take sides, cruel, very cruel.
Oh and for what its worth, my money was on Alonso for the title, Massa is a great guy but has a back seat driver to guide him everywhere, Lewis is right up there with Alonso, Button is doing a great job but is definitely turning into Chris Martin from Coldplay.
Also to nail my colours to the mast, if I had to choose a team out of the 2, under Todt & Dennis, it would have been McLaren. Now with the new team principles and new attitudes it's a closer call. I guess the way you'd look at it would be you'd want to be in a McLaren for most of your career as they are exactly what modern F1 is all about, slick, professional etc. But for one season at least you'd want to drive for Ferrari as they are what F1 was all about, history, passion etc. Having said that I respect McLaren more than I respect Ferrari, thats changing now Todt is gone mind you. So McLaren for me by a Schumacher nose cone.
Good call !!! :good:
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Wow! And I thought hockey was a religion over here! LOLOL :o
note to self, *never* reveal whom I'm a fan of! :DntKnw:
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Wow! And I thought hockey was a religion over here! LOLOL :o
note to self, *never* reveal whom I'm a fan of! :DntKnw:
No harm in revealing your "true colours or belief matey, as long as you have faith in what you are saying and to then stick to your guns....simple as that really, it's a free world, and everybody is entitled to their opinions...no matter what. :good:
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Great post Stealth, no one ever thinks of poor old Williamsfan :o They even try to make me vote for one of their teams. But little do they know, we'll be back, and we'll make them eat dust (whilst they lap us for the third time)! Ha ha >:D
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Williamsfan, never underestimate your own team!!!
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Jugirl "fell over the line" comment about JB....LMAO he literally did fall over the line and only just managed that haha
There was me thinking JB wrapped the title up before the last race and then beat his teamate into a distant 3rd in the championship as well. :D Of course it was easy he's a top man which is why he is in a top car again this year, :P ask Frank Williams he wanted him back a couple of years ago. :good:
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I never underestimate my team, trust me, but I am not going to sit and argue they can win championships any time soon. We're more likely to be lapped than to get a podium right now and that is a fact as it is happening!
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Jugirl "fell over the line" comment about JB....LMAO he literally did fall over the line and only just managed that haha
There was me thinking JB wrapped the title up before the last race and then beat his teamate into a distant 3rd in the championship as well. :D Of course it was easy he's a top man which is why he is in a top car again this year, :P ask Frank Williams he wanted him back a couple of years ago. :good:
JB is a top, top driver, there is no doubt. It bugs me that people try to discredit his title because he won so many races in the early part of the season. He held off an incredible challenge from Vettel and the Red Bull team and was a more than worthy champion.
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Hear hear !! :good: :good: :good:
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Out of all the teams I would love to see Frank Williams at the top again, I think he's the only true race team owner with F1 flowing through his veins. :good:
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Unsurprisingly Ian, I agree with you fully :D
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JB is a top, top driver, there is no doubt. It bugs me that people try to discredit his title because he won so many races in the early part of the season. He held off an incredible challenge from Vettel and the Red Bull team and was a more than worthy champion.
JB showed what he was made of towards the tail end of last season. :good:
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Right with you there about Frank, Patrick and the team Ian. :good: Trouble is it doesn't look like being anytime soon. :(
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Lets be honest JB was a bit lucky last year, his car was amazing at the start and Vettel had engine trouble all year. It would have so been a different story if Renault had a better engine for Vettel.
McLaren will be worried about there start though lets be honest though compared to last year its amazing haha. They only just pipped Ferrari to third last year because they were flogging a dead horse, Ferrari used brains and went for this years development which is seeing them lead in both championships and will continue to do so right up until Abu Dhabi:D
Another disappointing, though not from my point of view, season for lewis and Mclaren HAHA :D
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What makes Button any more lucky than any Ferrari driver, or come to mention it any driver ever who has had a car that at some point of the season was far more dominant than it's rivals? In the early part of the last decade the Ferrari was simply a class apart from the others, so Schumacher was lucky to win 5 world titles because the McLaren team had issues with some of it's cars and some poor reliability for Raikkonen? Or that BMW Williams couldn't get that consistency together to win a championship? Button did everything he had to do, he answered every question asked of him and came up as world champion, every bit as deserving as Kimi (won by one point) Raikkonen or Lewis (won at the last corner) Hamilton...
As a Ferrari fan, are you not worried that despite spending all of last year developing this year's car, Ferrari have won one race out of 3, don't look special compared to Red Bull, have engines with the strength of a wet paper tissue and still seem to lack the decision making of the early 2000s? Just a question, not an attack :good: By the way, a disappointing season has so far seen McLaren win just as many races as Ferrari ;)
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What makes Button any more lucky than any Ferrari driver, or come to mention it any driver ever who has had a car that at some point of the season was far more dominant than it's rivals? In the early part of the last decade the Ferrari was simply a class apart from the others, so Schumacher was lucky to win 5 world titles because the McLaren team had issues with some of it's cars and some poor reliability for Raikkonen? Or that BMW Williams couldn't get that consistency together to win a championship? Button did everything he had to do, he answered every question asked of him and came up as world champion, every bit as deserving as Kimi (won by one point) Raikkonen or Lewis (won at the last corner) Hamilton...
As a Ferrari fan, are you not worried that despite spending all of last year developing this year's car, Ferrari have won one race out of 3, don't look special compared to Red Bull, have engines with the strength of a wet paper tissue and still seem to lack the decision making of the early 2000s? Just a question, not an attack :good: By the way, a disappointing season has so far seen McLaren win just as many races as Ferrari ;)
:good: :good: :good: Well said Williamsfan, I couldn't have put it better myself, but to be honest, we can go on for ever can't we.....? Sometimes I seriously wonder whether we are watching the same races and talking about the same championship, because some observations/comments popsted by certain members are puzzling to say the least!! :DntKnw:
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:good: :good: :good: Well said Williamsfan, I couldn't have put it better myself, but to be honest, we can go on for ever can't we.....? Sometimes I seriously wonder whether we are watching the same races and talking about the same championship, because some observations/comments popsted by certain members are puzzling to say the least!! :DntKnw:
Sure be a dull old world without any dissenting voices, it's good that we don't all see things the same way.
Heck, just what would we talk about in this very forum if we all agreed about everything :confused: :DntKnw:
"Vive le difference"! :good: - Except, I still agree with you wf about JB :D
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Crikey hasnt this gone off topic. There is nothing wrong with supporting a team and following them passionately but where as i have admitted i am worried about vettel and his redbull, where is markb's realism about the McLaren??
I obviously hope and believe Ferrari will sort out there engines come europe which i believe they are saving for those races. (edit Wizzo)
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Jacques Villeneuve leaving the sport has been the best thing for me as a fan. While he was in there, I was pulling for him every race, no matter how awful he or his team performed. There were races I was lucky to hear his name once.
Now that he's gone, I'm watching the sport. I'm watching the teams and drivers scramble to the top. I watch strategies unfold, and rather than hope someone made the right decision, I just hope that someone else makes an equally interesting decision.
I'm now a fan of F1 first and I want to see Ferrari, McLaren, Mercedes and RBR fight to the wire. I don't care who wins, I just want a good show.
(Well, okay, I'm expecting Vettel to win, hoping that Hamilton wins, and wishing that Williams would show up on the top step again... but I'm not going to worry if that doesn't happen.)
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How about a shout for Kubica dragging a Renault to the front. If they can turn the new management/engineering combo into some real development they may win a race yet. Sorry, most of you know I never liked Frank Williams. I think he's just about where he deserves to be. McLaren stopped being of interest to me when Bruce died, Peter died and Denny retired. Ferrari is Ferrari, I liked them before MS came along, now not so much. Frankly F1 was way more interesting when it was Lotus, BRM, etc. :DntKnw:
Lonny
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Crikey hasnt this gone off topic. some people really do start to waffle ...mentioning no names of course. There is nothing wrong with supporting a team and following them passionately but where as i have admitted i am worried about vettel and his redbull, where is markb's realism about the McLaren??
I obviously hope and believe Ferrari will sort out there engines come europe which i believe they are saving for those races.
Threads going off topic has been mentioned more than once andy and it is something I approve of. I like the thought of these threads being more like conversations and going off on a tangent just as they would if we were all talking in a room. Where will the conversation end up? No one knows.
On a separate note please refrain from commenting on other members and there is no swearing allowed - Ever.
Wizzo
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Is that unless it's about Neil Wiz ? :DD :DD :DD :DD :DD :DD :DD :DD
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You can't beat a good tan-gent, unless it's a bad tan-woman. :P :tease:
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Crikey hasnt this gone off topic. some people really do start to waffle ...mentioning no names of course. There is nothing wrong with supporting a team and following them passionately but where as i have admitted i am worried about vettel and his redbull, where is markb's realism about the McLaren??
I obviously hope and believe Ferrari will sort out there engines come europe which i believe they are saving for those races.
Threads going off topic has been mentioned more than once andy and it is something I approve of. I like the thought of these threads being more like conversations and going off on a tangent just as they would if we were all talking in a room. Where will the conversation end up? No one knows.
On a separate note please refrain from commenting on other members and there is no swearing allowed - Ever.
Wizzo
Swearing is not not the answer by any means, but constructive criticism is the way for a seasonable conversation.....IMO.
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Crikey hasnt this gone off topic. some people really do start to waffle ...mentioning no names of course. There is nothing wrong with supporting a team and following them passionately but where as i have admitted i am worried about vettel and his redbull, where is markb's realism about the McLaren??
I obviously hope and believe Ferrari will sort out there engines come europe which i believe they are saving for those races.
Threads going off topic has been mentioned more than once andy and it is something I approve of. I like the thought of these threads being more like conversations and going off on a tangent just as they would if we were all talking in a room. Where will the conversation end up? No one knows.
On a separate note please refrain from commenting on other members and there is no swearing allowed - Ever.
Wizzo
Ah, so thats the real reason why Kimi left then! These new F1 rules are very strict if you ask me........ but then it may also explain why McLaren had to rename there F Duct system!
Oh and I am a serial off topicer! You have been warned... :D
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Many of us, myself included, are old duffers. Our minds tend to wander a bit. :confused:
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Crikey hasnt this gone off topic. There is nothing wrong with supporting a team and following them passionately but where as i have admitted i am worried about vettel and his redbull, where is markb's realism about the McLaren??
I obviously hope and believe Ferrari will sort out there engines come europe which i believe they are saving for those races. (edit Wizzo)
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Wizzo edit?? The red flag flys at half mast today Andy.
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Crikey hasnt this gone off topic. some people really do start to waffle ...mentioning no names of course. There is nothing wrong with supporting a team and following them passionately but where as i have admitted i am worried about vettel and his redbull, where is markb's realism about the McLaren??
I obviously hope and believe Ferrari will sort out there engines come europe which i believe they are saving for those races.
Threads going off topic has been mentioned more than once andy and it is something I approve of. I like the thought of these threads being more like conversations and going off on a tangent just as they would if we were all talking in a room. Where will the conversation end up? No one knows.
On a separate note please refrain from commenting on other members and there is no swearing allowed - Ever.
Wizzo
Ah, so thats the real reason why Kimi left then! These new F1 rules are very strict if you ask me........ but then it may also explain why McLaren had to rename there F Duct system!
Oh and I am a serial off topicer! You have been warned... :D
It's true, he is :D I like it that a thread can just go anywhere like a natural conversation tends to do.
Btw Stealth, great theory on Kimi :D