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F1 News & Discussions => General F1 Discussion => Topic started by: Jericoke on July 04, 2022, 02:40:02 AM
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Heroes:
Sainz, first pole, first win. The race never seemed like his to win, yet when things broke his way, he was ready to take advantage.
Perez, how the heck did that happen? He was out of the race entirely, we barely hear a peep from him, and suddenly he's second place? Boys and girls, this is why don't ever give up.
Hamilton, put on a great race. I think he was in line to win if he'd had slightly better luck (and maybe the mediums instead of softs for the last stint?)
Most of the rest of the grid: solid racing top to bottom, lots going on, a few knuckle head moves (noted below), finishing this race was an accomplishment to be celebrated I think.
Zeroes:
Max. For his offtrack attitude, he will remain a perma-zero for me until he redeems himself.
Alpha Tauri. What's going on there? The team seems to be in shambles, the drivers aren't understanding each other on track. Tost did a great job bringing Vettel and Verstappen into championship careers, but honestly, they'd have done that without him. Ricciardo, Gasly, Sainz, Albon, they're all great drivers that went through Tost too. It's time for a change.
I'm glad that Zhou and Albon are okay. Hard to apportion blame on those crashes. I'm not sure that gravel traps have a place in modern F1, maybe I'm wrong. There's always going to be 'freak' accidents that no one is going to be able to plan for, so I'm glad the cars have robust safety systems.
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Much as I dislike Max, he did a fine job to bring his
crippled car home in the points. If he would just
stop whining. The pit wall was aware he had
reduced grip and there was nothing they could do
about it.
Alonso once again hung around and hung around
and was there at the end for a nice points haul.
Zeroes
Mercedes once again botched Lewis' strategy not
once but twice. Left him out too long on mediums
and picked the wrong tire at the end. I hope Merc is
finally getting it sorted and this wasn't a flash in the
pan.
The FIA. Allowed some pretty dodgy moves after the
safety car to go unchallenged. Drivers will take that
to mean they can continue to put all four wheels off,
or force a competitor off the track.
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Yes, I feel the FIA or Stewards were not following their own new rules as not once, but twice cars were pushed off track and nothing was done. It should be dealt with while the race is on not looked at afterwards as an on-track event needs to have
on-track repercussions.
Merc did pooch Lewis race with poor strategy and tire choice.
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Besides what has already been mentioned....
Heroes:
Silverstone - As we were saying in the Chat Room, great tracks lead to great races.
Haas - Double points finish! :yahoo:
Sainz - A well deserved first win. Almost got the Grand Slam until Lewis pulled F/L at the end.
Hamilton - Looks like the old Lewis is back.
The Track Safety Crews - They did a great job safely extracting Zhou from his car after a horrifying shunt. Having the car standing on it's side stuck between the catch fence and the TechPro barrier probably isn't something they train for. Full marks for Zhou for his good spirits after the incident. Posting a selfie of himself showing that he was OK was a fine move for the fans to see. Anybody want to bet that the catch fence there will be higher next season?
Zeroes:
The Clueless Campaigners: The idiots who ran onto the track on the first lap to protest something. It could well have been a huge disaster if the field wasn't under FCY due to Zhou's shunt. Good on the broadcasters for not showing them or mentioning whatever they were there for.
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The Clueless Campaigners: The idiots who ran onto the track on the first lap to protest something. It could well have been a huge disaster if the field wasn't under FCY due to Zhou's shunt. Good on the broadcasters for not showing them or mentioning whatever they were there for.
Sometimes I’m embarrassed to be British!! The idiots would have paid around £100 to be there - just to run on to the track. They got zero TV coverage here in the UK. How did that help any cause???? It would have been more helpful if they had donated their entry fees to a good cause!
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And yet here we are all talking about them and several drivers commented that they are sympathetic to their aims if not their means.... :D
They've had plenty of indirect coverage in the news I've been reading.
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Does anyone know what they were protesting
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This is the 1st I am hearing of any protestors at the race. No mention on F1TV.
Some people seem to feel that protesting at large events and getting media coverage will gain them widespread attention and more sympathizers.
The so-called Freedom Convoy morons that occupied our Capital back in February had the same myopic self-interest point of view that showed zero regards for anyone other than themselves.
There were also no images shown of Zhou's crash after it happened and that was smart until they found out his condition. I would have liked to see the crews working on retrieving the car after they found out he was okay, but nothing was forthcoming.
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Does anyone know what they were protesting
They were protesting against oil use.
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/jul/04/sebastian-vettel-expresses-sympathy-for-silverstone-climate-protestors-f1
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If Lewis and Vettel support this group maybe they should
race electric cars nest year.
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Yes, I agree, it's rather hippocritical to make your living driving cars with enormous fuel consumption in a circle as fast as they can "for fun" and then support protests against oil!!
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Yes, I agree, it's rather hippocritical to make your living driving cars with enormous fuel consumption in a circle as fast as they can "for fun" and then support protests against oil!!
Both drivers acknowledge the hypocrisy, and then point out that F1 generates more HP per unit of gas/petrol than just about any other engine technology. Basically if the entire oil using world was as efficient as an F1 car, then we wouldn't really be worried about it from an environmental perspective. In essence, the protestors damage themselves by protesting one of the few groups investing billions of dollars into reducing emissions.
(Of course, most of F1's 'carbon footprint' is created from moving equipment and personnel between races, meaning your local Forest Fire league probably has less 'carbon footprint' than F1.)
Personally, I don't see how F1 can stay as a hydrocarbon based formula much longer. I know that Formula E isn't ready for 'prime time', but Formula E doesn't have the F1 level of investment either.
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I have little sympathy for anyone who thinks their cause is "so important" that it OK to put innocent people's lives at risk. Isn't that what people say when they fly airliners into buildings?
As for Farce Formula E - The series can be summed up with two dreaded words: Fan Boost. :sick:
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Both drivers acknowledge the hypocrisy, and then point out that F1 generates more HP per unit of gas/petrol than just about any other engine technology. Basically if the entire oil using world was as efficient as an F1 car, then we wouldn't really be worried about it from an environmental perspective.
This may be true, but nevertheless the F1 technology is not being transferred into normal road tech, else all cars would be as efficient as F1 cars.
So at some point the argument is what's the point in having this technology available if it can't be reused elsewhere.
Perhaps Formula E would have more technology transfer, but even there I guess most of the technology breakthrough comes from industry rather than Formula E.
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I'd like to add a new Zero to the list:
Zero: Alfa Romeo's roll over crash 'hoop' failed during Zhou's crash. In replays you can see it snap off almost immediately. Yes, the halo protected him, but that's not the halo's job. I'm glad Zhou is okay, I'm glad the cars have redundant safety systems, but that seems like a big fail on behalf of Alfa.
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I'd like to add a new Zero to the list:
Zero: Alfa Romeo's roll over crash 'hoop' failed during Zhou's crash. In replays you can see it snap off almost immediately. Yes, the halo protected him, but that's not the halo's job. I'm glad Zhou is okay, I'm glad the cars have redundant safety systems, but that seems like a big fail on behalf of Alfa.
Jeri that seems a rather strange claim that the Halo is not a meant as protective device in a roll over. :confused:
Surely Halo is a device to protect drivers heads & shoulders from harm whichever way the car is up. I'd say it's an integral part of the safety cage structures around the drivers, adding extra in the case of roll over; which is precisely how it performed.
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I'd like to add a new Zero to the list:
Zero: Alfa Romeo's roll over crash 'hoop' failed during Zhou's crash. In replays you can see it snap off almost immediately. Yes, the halo protected him, but that's not the halo's job. I'm glad Zhou is okay, I'm glad the cars have redundant safety systems, but that seems like a big fail on behalf of Alfa.
Jeri that seems a rather strange claim that the Halo is not a meant as protective device in a roll over. :confused:
Surely Halo is a device to protect drivers heads & shoulders from harm whichever way the car is up. I'd say it's an integral part of the safety cage structures around the drivers, adding extra in the case of roll over; which is precisely how it performed.
I gave the zero to the roll over hoop, which failed spectacularly.
Obviously the halo performed brilliantly, but it's not meant to be the primary protection in a roll over, the hoop is. I'm glad no one was seriously injured in the crash, and certainly redundancy is important to safety in all classes of motor racing (how many safety features did Zhou bypass before the crash fence finally caught him?)
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Analysis indicates the roll hoop was put under twice the load the FIA test requires, which itself was supposed to cover all imagined scenarios. No prizes for guessing that the FIA will require tougher rollhoops in 2023.
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The good part of this is that, fortunately, this flaw in the specifications was discovered without injury. Such insights usually come with a much higher price.