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F1 News & Discussions => General F1 Discussion => Topic started by: markfarrell9572 on June 18, 2011, 12:17:52 AM
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Ok we all have opinions on who is the best driver ever to start a race in F1, some will say with all his titles Schumacher, more will say Senna, some say despite his lack of titles it's Moss, but who do people think is the worst driver to make it to F1, who really shouldn't have done? Also who do you consider the best driver to never have made it?
For me the worst is a tie between Philppe Adams and Taki Inoue. The best never to have made it? Well for me its Gil DeFerran.
Opinions please....
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I only started watching in the Concorde Era.
I missed plenty of awful racers whose only qualification was enough money to buy a customer chassis and engine.
Heck, Eccelstone himself is a former (unsuccessful) F1 driver.
As for the best who never made it... Greg Moore was taken from motorsport far too early. I know he'd fit right into F1
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Too many bad drivers to think about. Best who never made it AJ Foyt. he won Indy 4 times using roadsters and mid engined cars, won the 24 Hours of Le Mans, the Daytona 24, the Daytona 500, and the IROC twice. He has more Indy car wins than any other driver, and more National Championships than any other driver. He matched Dan Gurney's lap times in the Ford Mk4 at Le Mans. He took over the T-Bird Swap Shop Porsche 962 at Daytona after his car retired and matched Bob Wollek's lap times in the dark, in the rain, first time in the car. You may not like the man but you have to respect his talent.
Lonny
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Greg Moore could well have been the next Canadian hero in F1. He was that good.
As for someone who shouldn't have been there, but was, recently I'd have to say Badoer. Not many drivers who could take a Ferrari that was regularly taking podiums and bring it in at the tail end of the field.
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I'd have to go with Foyt, too. He excelled in every type of race car he ever drove.
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I'm not that old so my memories are limited. :D
Worst - Piquet Jr :sick:
Best of my time - Well this is hard, Schumacher, Senna, Hakkinen, Alonso? The older drivers I always thought sound excellent were Jim Clark and Graham Hill.
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Best of my time - Well this is hard, Schumacher, Senna, Hakkinen, Alonso? The older drivers I always thought sound excellent were Jim Clark and Graham Hill.
The question is the best driver(s) that DIDN'T make it to F1. :crazy:
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Ah, the things that could have been had AJ Foyt made it to F1. Can you imagine? I could picture him climbing out of his car today to choke Charlie Whiting for taking too long to turn out the red lights....then getting back in his car and placing 1st. :good:
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Best of my time - Well this is hard, Schumacher, Senna, Hakkinen, Alonso? The older drivers I always thought sound excellent were Jim Clark and Graham Hill.
The question is the best driver(s) that DIDN'T make it to F1. :crazy:
Opp's :-[
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Foyt would have brought a lot of colour and character alright, same could be said for Tony Stewart! I'm almost ashamed to say I'd forgotten Greg Moore, am I right in saying though that Greg grew up watching Indy/Champ cars and had no great desire to do anything other than drive single seaters in the US? He didn't particularly want or need to be in F1.
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I'm pretty sure I remember that there was already interest from F1 teams for Moore when he died. There was sure a lot of talk about it.
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I'm not that old so my memories are limited. :D
Worst - Piquet Jr :sick:
There have been far worse than Piquet Jr if you are basing it on his actions at Singapore he was in a loose loose situation as if he had said he was not crashing then he would have lost the drive anyway. But I diversify!!
The period of pay drivers back in the 70/80's brought along too many to mention.
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Of course Foyt thought F1 was kind of Sissy, though he did say he thought Clark would do well in a Sprint Car!! :yahoo:
Lonny
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I can think of two drivers I'd nominate for the worst driver to make it to F1. First, former ABBA drummer & back-up singer Slim Borgudd. The other drove for one of my favorite teams: Super Aguri's Yuji Ide. After only 4 races, the FIA took his Super Licence back.
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Foyt would have brought a lot of colour and character alright, same could be said for Tony Stewart! I'm almost ashamed to say I'd forgotten Greg Moore, am I right in saying though that Greg grew up watching Indy/Champ cars and had no great desire to do anything other than drive single seaters in the US? He didn't particularly want or need to be in F1.
Back when CBC still showed F1 racing, and Brian Williams would fill in for for Martin Brundle during the Canadian Grand Prix (while Brundle was racing Le Mans), they interviewed Moore on air. He remained committed to his contract in CART, but certainly seemed excited at the prospect of following Villeneuve into F1.
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For the worst driver, I do absolutel NOT agree with Badoer. Badoer was a better driver in lower classes than Barrichello, but had the bad luck of never making it to a top team. And when he did, he hadn't raced for over 10 years. Not really fair to judge him on that. Fisichella couldn't do it much better in that same Ferrari, did he?
For the worst driver of all, I come out with two names: Yuji Ide and Jean-Dénis Délétraz. Don't know who was the worst of the two, I suspect the Frenchman... ;)
For the best driver who didn't get into Formula 1, I think about Arie Luyendyk. Could have been the first Dutch World Champion if he got himself a good car. He was in talks but not really interested, as far as I know.
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You're obviously more historically knowledgable than me, so I can't disagree with your choices of Yuji Ide and Jean-Dénis Délétraz. However in my defence, I think there are plenty of rookies who could have taken the Ferrari off the tail end of the races, and they haven't raced in F1...ever. Fisi did manage to beat a few backmarkers though, and has proven over time that he is a decent journeyman driver in F1. Surely Badoer had some testing in the car and enough simulator training to get a better grip than he displayed.