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Author Topic: FIA intervenes in F1 car porpoising saga on safety grounds  (Read 371 times)

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FIA intervenes in F1 car porpoising saga on safety grounds
« on: June 16, 2022, 06:09:59 PM »
I am heartened that with it's intervention the FIA seems to realise that teams can solve this issue themselves and as a result are looking to require that teams make the necessary adjustments to reduce or to eliminate this phenomenon when it reaches a certain limit.

Bruised & discombobulated drivers currently running onboard bouncing cars might soon find themselves with a smooth ride, but perhaps also having to chase lap times.

Below is a report from TheRace.com of what the FIA directive looks like.

The FIA has referred to two short-term means by which the technical directive will allow it to tackle the problem.

The first is described as “closer scrutiny of the planks and skids, both in terms of their design and the observed wear”.

This would suggest that any evidence of the underside of the car hitting the ground too aggressively could lead to instructions to alter set-ups, which could include the need to raise the ride heights that would mitigate the savagery of the impacts.

The second part is described as “the definition of a metric, based on the car’s vertical acceleration, that will give a quantitative limit for acceptable level of vertical oscillations”.

“The exact mathematical formula for this metric is still being analysed by the FIA, and the Formula 1 teams have been invited to contribute to this process.”

The timescale for the implementation of this metric has not been made public, but The Race understands the FIA hopes it can be implemented immediately within the Canadian Grand Prix weekend.

There is no lack of data for the FIA to refer to, as in addition to that gathered by the car the drivers also wear an in-ear accelerometer that can measure the forces they are subjected to.

Safety is the primary reason for this intervention, with the FIA also citing the potential effect of these oscillations in terms of the driver’s concentration. Such safety concerns make it possible to make immediate changes to the way that the regulations are applied.

The FIA has also expressed concerns about what it calls the “physical impact” on the drivers.

“The FIA has decided to intervene following consultation with its doctors in the interests of safety of the drivers.

Couretsy therace.com, today
« Last Edit: June 16, 2022, 08:10:20 PM by John S »


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Offline rmassart

Re: FIA intervenes in F1 car porpoising saga on safety grounds
« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2022, 06:29:43 AM »
It will be interesting to see how Mercedes apply these rules. Will they end up slipping further down the field? I can't see them going quicker by having to increase their ride height.

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Re: FIA intervenes in F1 car porpoising saga on safety grounds
« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2022, 10:23:56 AM »
Holy Cow! According to Pitpass.com FIA may disqualify non compliant cars if ride height adjustment fails to work.  :swoon:

"It's understood that new limits on the oscillations will be set before FP3 and if teams cannot provide a set-up deemed to be safe they will be forced to increase the ride height on their cars by 10mm.

Should cars still be found to be oscillating over the set limit they would face disqualification."

Quote from longer piece courtesy Pitpass.com, Thur 16th June.
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Offline Willy

Re: FIA intervenes in F1 car porpoising saga on safety grounds
« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2022, 02:07:08 PM »
Glad to hear the FIA is wading in on this as they caused the issue with the rules changes.
I realize they were made to allow cars to be closer to each other for passing but it did not work well and this change should have occurred sooner.

Offline Jericoke

Re: FIA intervenes in F1 car porpoising saga on safety grounds
« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2022, 03:48:36 PM »
I think the new rules are very fair, and address any concerns anyone could have.

I am frustrated that the FIA is again favouring Red Bull, but 'it's racing'

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Re: FIA intervenes in F1 car porpoising saga on safety grounds
« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2022, 01:03:07 PM »
Now it seems the FIA are only collecting date in Canada and will only apply any orders on ride height if necessary at British GP. We all know Silverstone is a smooth track so Merc should have less problems there, however some teams like Ferrari and Haas may not get off the hook as they display porpoising at most tracks.

Also it seems Montreal track is bumpy and a lot of the bouncing maybe from the track surface and not porpoising from ground effect areo which is what directive is trying to address.  :o

For this to be proper safety issue shouldn't FIA be viewing bigger picture of driver spinal vunerability, not just car designed areo porpoising effect?  :confused:
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