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F1 News & Discussions => General F1 Discussion => Topic started by: markfarrell9572 on April 19, 2012, 07:08:13 PM
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http://www.crash.net/f1/news/178724/1/force_india_personnel_in_firebomb_scare_in_bahrain.html (http://www.crash.net/f1/news/178724/1/force_india_personnel_in_firebomb_scare_in_bahrain.html)
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/98957 (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/98957)
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Heard this on the news on the way home from work. I have a very bad feeling about this weekend, I fear we may see something other than racing. Hope I'm wrong.
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Saw this on the BBC F1 site this morning, even if the firebomb was'nt aimed at them it's dodgy.
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Bring in the Brazillian security teams F1 uses
They seem to get the job done.
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This what I feared most, The F1 fraternity becomes the target, as it has allied with the government, thus become enemies to the protesters.. And any such incidence will bear the consequence of greed of power hungry people like Bernie & company...
But if they can and should ensure the safety of these people..then I must say the sports should go on and should not associate with an internal situation of a sovereign country..
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Bloody stupid decision to go there in the first place. Nice one Bernie.
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Bernie would never stop throwing these tantrum, and like always others have to pay this vulture's childishness...
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The hacker group Anonymous has apparently takend down the official F1 website as a protest against the Bahrain race.
http://jalopnik.com/5903732/breaking-anonymous-takes-down-formula-1-website-with-ddos-attack (http://jalopnik.com/5903732/breaking-anonymous-takes-down-formula-1-website-with-ddos-attack)
Seems to still be down - I can't get on it at the moment.
I'd much rather them hack into Bernie's accounts and do a Robin Hood by giving the teams all his money. :good:
I hope we stay under the radar (get your picks in!!). They've also taken down fan site F1racers.net
Attached is a screen shot I pulled when I tried to visit F1racers.net
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It's all well and good to slam Bernie for signing Bahrain, but Todt is the one who actually made the decision to race there this weekend. He could have pulled the race for any of several reasons, but he is also interested in the Bahraini money for the FIA. >:D
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Yesterday the Force India story was the main news item on the local news. This despite none of those involved coming from anywhere in the radio station's territory. Afterwards the DJ joked about being unable to even give away his tickets to Bahrain and binned them on-air*.
Way to make yourself look like plonkers, FIA...
* - I don't think he really had tickets: for all that the DJ in question is an F1 fan, the paper didn't sound thick enough to be actual tickets...
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* - I don't think he really had tickets: for all that the DJ in question is an F1 fan, the paper didn't sound thick enough to be actual tickets...
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
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I agree in principle with fixing the human rights atrocities in Bahrain, I completely condemn the hacker group Anonymous. They are nothing more than cyber terrorists who attack any who don't agree with their views. They need to be tracked down, arrested and imprisoned as the terrorists they are, right along side the true terrorists of this world, including the sickening regime of Bahrain.
Sorry if this view takes anyones opinion of me down alot, but, I am sick of the self rightious attitudes running around, people feeling superior because they support things only in theory. If they want my respect, get off their pompous arses and do something.
As always this is just my opinion.
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I've read a bit about Anonymous, and they are really a bunch of asocial people who take down websites because it's fun. They are not as principled or political as they pretend to be. Several of their members are suspected of cyber bullying a girl into suicide. I don't think they can even be termed terrorists because terrorists usually have a cause or belief driving their actions. They just do it for lols.
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I agree in principle with fixing the human rights atrocities in Bahrain, I completely condemn the hacker group Anonymous. They are nothing more than cyber terrorists who attack any who don't agree with their views. They need to be tracked down, arrested and imprisoned as the terrorists they are, right along side the true terrorists of this world, including the sickening regime of Bahrain.
Sorry if this view takes anyones opinion of me down alot, but, I am sick of the self rightious attitudes running around, people feeling superior because they support things only in theory. If they want my respect, get off their pompous arses and do something.
As always this is just my opinion.
Gets my vote Rom. :good:
Although as punishment for their actions the should be sentenced to spend a few years in a remote place with no internet access, see how they like having their service taken down. ;)
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They and the ones who plant viruses are no better than a gang feral youths who deliberately attack and cripple a person for the fun of it.
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Ok, they're anonymous, and in my books that's their biggest sin. If they weren't though, some rather large policemen would break down their doors and haul them away to places without internet or decent food.
BUT...some, perhaps many of you must grin a bit when they take down the Formula One site, or CIA, a nasty corporation, or some other big, also essentially anonymous sites, with no accountability to anyone. Well, whatever - I do. Sometimes I even chuckle.
I don't see Anonymous as particularly dangerous to me personally. If, like Lonny said, a few of them apparently bullied someone into suicide, then those ones should be hunted and imprisoned. The rest? Not so sure. The fact that they are as their name states makes any stories about them without much merit. If you can't identify them to jail them, I somehow doubt you can finger them for much else.
If they continue to be a pain in the a$$ to some governments and large corporations in cyber attacks that generally do no harm other than embarrassment, over issues that for the most part I agree with, then I'm ok with that. The world needs a good shakeup and a bit of exposure every now and again.
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I really dont know much about the political situation in Bahrain and i do find the news reports coming out from there disturbing, but i dont know whether cancelling the grand prix would be of benefit to anyone.
I don't know anything about it so I had better shut up.
As for the anonymous hacker group...they are a bunch of numptys...nothing better to do then interfere with peoples property. I don't have any respect for them.
I liked this quote from John
" Although as punishment for their actions the should be sentenced to spend a few years in a remote place with no internet access, see how they like having their service taken down. "
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Anonymous only goes after corporate and government groups. While I don't agree with their tactics, I fully understand their frustration. The only reference I've ever seen about them bullying individuals came from Faux Noise, so I assume it's just more Rupert Rubbish.
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I really dont know much about the political situation in Bahrain and i do find the news reports coming out from there disturbing, but i dont know whether cancelling the grand prix would be of benefit to anyone.
Hayley I'm not trying to lecture you or anyone else here, I'm just passionate about this issue so have picked a quote of yours to start with. I occasionally work with someone who does a lot of work in the Middle East, or at least used to, and have been talking with them recently about this issue.
From what I understand, there are regular, often daily, tear-gas attacks on Shia villages that are home to protestors against the Sunni regime. These attacks are indiscriminate, with gas entering houses and causing numerous serious health issues for one and all, especially the very young. These attacks have been severely stepped up due to the GP taking place. Cancelling the GP would have meant these attacks wouldn't have been stepped up as the eyes of the world wouldn't be upon Bahrain, so it would have benefitted many to not have the race at all.
Anonymous are simply trying to making this known, all be it at the expense of this or that corporation. One person's view will differ to another's depending on what one thinks is more important – the Bahrainians or the corporates.
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Anonymous have apparently succeeded in taking down formula1.com, as attempting access results in an error.
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f1.com comes up perfect on my pc Ali.
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Same here, Ali. It works fine.
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Hayley I'm not trying to lecture you or anyone else here, I'm just passionate about this issue so have picked a quote of yours to start with. I occasionally work with someone who does a lot of work in the Middle East, or at least used to, and have been talking with them recently about this issue.
From what I understand, there are regular, often daily, tear-gas attacks on Shia villages that are home to protestors against the Sunni regime. These attacks are indiscriminate, with gas entering houses and causing numerous serious health issues for one and all, especially the very young. These attacks have been severely stepped up due to the GP taking place. Cancelling the GP would have meant these attacks wouldn't have been stepped up as the eyes of the world wouldn't be upon Bahrain, so it would have benefitted many to not have the race at all.
Anonymous are simply trying to making this known, all be it at the expense of this or that corporation. One person's view will differ to another's depending on what one thinks is more important – the Bahrainians or the corporates.
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Like i said I do know nothing of the situation so was probably talking out my backside :-)
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One must also remember that the F1 race brings a great deal of prestige and tons of money to the ruling families of Bahrain.
http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/10/f1-brinkmanship-bahrain-grand-prix-money/ (http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/10/f1-brinkmanship-bahrain-grand-prix-money/)
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One must also remember that the F1 race brings a great deal of prestige and tons of money to the ruling families of Bahrain.
I thought nearly every other country complains that there is no profit in hosting F1 races. Indeed most promoters have to get a handout from their central or local governments to nearly break even. :swoon:
So how come the Bahraini's stand to make such a fortune from an F1 race? :confused:
Do spectators in the meringue palace at the circuit have to pay with chests of gold to attend? Or do the Bahraini's know a secret that eludes all the other race promoters around the world? :D
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I really dont know much about the political situation in Bahrain and i do find the news reports coming out from there disturbing, but i dont know whether cancelling the grand prix would be of benefit to anyone.
Hayley I'm not trying to lecture you or anyone else here, I'm just passionate about this issue so have picked a quote of yours to start with. I occasionally work with someone who does a lot of work in the Middle East, or at least used to, and have been talking with them recently about this issue.
From what I understand, there are regular, often daily, tear-gas attacks on Shia villages that are home to protestors against the Sunni regime. These attacks are indiscriminate, with gas entering houses and causing numerous serious health issues for one and all, especially the very young. These attacks have been severely stepped up due to the GP taking place. Cancelling the GP would have meant these attacks wouldn't have been stepped up as the eyes of the world wouldn't be upon Bahrain, so it would have benefitted many to not have the race at all.
Anonymous are simply trying to making this known, all be it at the expense of this or that corporation. One person's view will differ to another's depending on what one thinks is more important – the Bahrainians or the corporates.
It's my opinion that you can't give into terrorists,it just makes others
want to try it.
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One must also remember that the F1 race brings a great deal of prestige and tons of money to the ruling families of Bahrain.
I thought nearly every other country complains that there is no profit in hosting F1 races. Indeed most promoters have to get a handout from their central or local governments to nearly break even. :swoon:
So how come the Bahraini's stand to make such a fortune from an F1 race? :confused:
Do spectators in the meringue palace at the circuit have to pay with chests of gold to attend? Or do the Bahraini's know a secret that eludes all the other race promoters around the world? :D
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In this case, the promoters have their fingers in everything else. The 'government' either owns or gets revenue from the hotels, shops, parking, air travel, sea travel, merchandising, food sales etc.