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F1 News & Discussions => General F1 Discussion => Topic started by: John S on February 17, 2013, 10:13:41 PM
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First thought, no way! :nono: :crazy: But Ernie Black's (F1plus) reasoned argument makes sense. :swoon:
http://www.f1plus.com/en/columns/item/3022-could-alonso-leave-ferrari
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That's hardly a reasoned argument, it's a few well worn facts rehashed with a lump of juvenile speculation piled on top.
This is one of the great flaws of the internet, now everybody else will start quoting this article, and soon there will be a rampant "rumour" that FA is about to jump off the horse.
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It does sound a little like a bored writer with nothing to do, rather than a story.
The main question, to me, is what does Alonso want from F1? He's won two championships, and while everyone always wants to win another, surely a championship with Ferrari outweighs a championship with any other team. I doubt there's a driver on the grid who would pick a championship with their current team ahead of a championship with Ferrari.
I wonder if he doesn't win with Ferrari he might just call it quits, rather than go to another team. (Of course, he might love the idea of driving a Newey world beater. Who wouldn't?)
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I see Alonso retiring form Ferrari, that said I could see him retiring within the next few seasons if results don't come his way.
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I think Jeri's right, the only thing that might tempt him is a chance to work with Newey. And I don't see that happenng unless something major happens at Red Bull.
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I'll jump on the bandwagon too...don't see Alonso leaving Ferrari unless he has a chance to drive for Newey, and if that ever happens, he might be too old.
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Alonso has hinted that he only wants to win one more title. I suspect that he wants to match Senna's tally, and then call it a day.
I don't see him leaving Ferrari. I think that he has a very good deal there, and has established a very strong relationship with those at the top.
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I think Alonso get the treatment that he want in Ferrari? Where else he might find another team in the grid who would broke his teammates car in order to jump him in the grid?
And also where else will he get that much financial backing? I mean he wouldn't be able to settle in Mclaren, Helmut Marko will not want him to race against his whinning baby, and no matter how much emphasis does he give that he has sorted things with Lewis, I don't think he will like the idea of being his team-mate again. And the Ferrari people adore this boy, they were ashamed last year, they could not give him a better car, how many big team will admit that publicly? So unless he gets a chance to drive for Newey's race winning wagon, I think he will the demi-god of the Tifosi till he retires.
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I think maybe Alonso and Hamilton could be in the same team again, Alonso has done marvels with an under par car and I think Hamilton could now learn a few things from Alonso. If they were in the same team and worked together I think they would be very formidable.
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I don't see either ego suffering as teammates to each other. Never happen in my opinion, even if they were both offered jobs under Newey's design.
My prediction? Alonso will retire from Ferrari in 3-4 years. Hamilton will make his retirement pot at Mercedes and then after not winning a thing he will keep driving for a couple midfield teams for another year or two and then be gone himself. As for Hamilton, I hope I am proven wrong. A better scenario would be him returning to McLaren after two seasons, everyone makes up and he goes on to win another championship and retires in a managerial role there. I don't have much confidence in Mercedes doing anything with their knee jerk hirings and firings.
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For me 2014 is the big unknown, I can't see Nando leaving Ferrari until he has at least tried the new regs car at Ferrari. However if the 2014 car is a dog and other teams run off with the spoils, under the new turbo rules, I can imagine Nando leaving- maybe even before the season has ended.
Even Newey is concerned about the new reg cars and engines. What if Merc get the jump with their engine and it's the two silver teams, Macca and Merc that are slugging it out for the honours well ahead of the rest in 2014?
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As much as I admire Alonso, I don't really care where he drives, other than if he leaves Ferrari then it frees up a seat for someone else. When Vettel's got five in a row he might fancy a go in a red car... maybe not.
Would dearly love to see Hamilton in a proper car, be it Mercedes or elsewhere, and if partnered with Alonso that would only spice it up.
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I think maybe Alonso and Hamilton could be in the same team again, Alonso has done marvels with an under par car and I think Hamilton could now learn a few things from Alonso. If they were in the same team and worked together I think they would be very formidable.
Alonso's problem wasn't with Hamilton per se, it was with being on an English team with an English driver, and feeling like they weren't treating the Spaniard fairly. Whether Alonso was right or wrong, having a doubt can't be good for an F1 driver.
I should think they'd make a great pairing for a 'neutral' team, say Italian or Swiss.
I would love to see them on the same team, in a top car, again.
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I should think they'd make a great pairing for a 'neutral' team, say Italian or Swiss.
H'mm let me think, :confused: would that 'neutral' be an Italian team that broadcast the faster than you message by any chance? :D
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Alonso would never work with Hamilton.
Back to the topic - I don't see Alonso leaving Ferrari, as long as he believes they can win. That having been said, he may be in Massa's sights this season (if Felipe picks up where he left off at the end of 2012) since he was faster than Alonso in the last two or three races. Wouldn't that be a kick in the pants?
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, he may be in Massa's sights this season (if Felipe picks up where he left off at the end of 2012) since he was faster than Alonso in the last two or three races. Wouldn't that be a kick in the pants?
We will always have someone in the radio saying "Fernando is faster you" for sure
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Suppose Massa is leading the WDC somehow about halfway along. Would Ferrari dare to tell Alonso Felipe is faster than you? They always say the team comes before any driver. :DntKnw:
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Suppose Massa is leading the WDC somehow about halfway along. Would Ferrari dare to tell Alonso Felipe is faster than you?
Stefano might not have the balls but Luca certainly does, after all he fired both Michael and Kimi. :D
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Don't see it happening. :nono: :nono:
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Something I heard during the FP1 broadcast last night: Massa has never lead a lap at Albert Park. Maybe this will be his year to shine.
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Suppose Massa is leading the WDC somehow about halfway along. Would Ferrari dare to tell Alonso Felipe is faster than you? They always say the team comes before any driver. :DntKnw:
The probability of that is as low as over half the field retiring with engine failures in two days time ;).
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As Ferrari have shown last year, they will do all sort of update run on Massa, to give Alonso the chance to get close to Vettel, so the chance of going anywhere near the leader board for Massa is an absolute no no :nono:
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Probably true, but Massa was faster in the last couple of races and Ferrari had to tell him to slow down so as not to end up overtaking Alonso.
In Austin it would have happened with several laps to go, in spite of them dropping him 5 places to on the grid to give Alonso a better start on the clean side.
In Brasil, Massa, who always has good starts, blew the field away and then held up Webber to let Alonso through.
If Massa can have a decent start to the season, he could end up with the team behind him, but he has to get ahead of Alonso and claim his place before that will happen.
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I can't see Fernando leaving Ferrari unless it is to retire.
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Ah yes, but you appear to be an Alonso fan :P :P
Welcome Alonsofan to our community here at GP Wizard. Stick around and poke around. Race day chat is a highlight and we have a fantastic Grid Game competition along with a very knowledgeable forum community with plenty of discussions between races. Hope to see you around. ;)
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Moves like today by Ferrari won't do Alonso-Ferrari relations much good! Strange day for Ferrari.
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Welcome to GP Wizard, Alonsofan!
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Thanks guys :D