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F1 News & Discussions => General F1 Discussion => Topic started by: Dare on August 27, 2013, 01:16:30 PM
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My problem with Massa is he shouldn't have to
keep finding the pace he should already have it
and keep it.Time to go Felipe
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The question is: who would replace Felipe? The only people who I can think of who are not already busy elsewhere (Webber, Fisico...) are either way too slow for the job (simply because Max Chilton or Pastor Maldonado would jump at a Ferrari chance doesn't make them the right candidates) or too fast (Raikkonen and Button would never cope with being asked to be unquestioned #2 to Alonso).
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The question is: who would replace Felipe? The only people who I can think of who are not already busy elsewhere (Webber, Fisico...) are either way too slow for the job (simply because Max Chilton or Pastor Maldonado would jump at a Ferrari chance doesn't make them the right candidates) or too fast (Raikkonen and Button would never cope with being asked to be unquestioned #2 to Alonso).
I'm sure Hulkenberg, Sutil or even Di Resta would be only too willing to sign a follow the man order on a Ferrari contract. ;)
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To be honest, Jules Bianchi may also be a good option for Ferrari, as because the way he showed his easiness to be able to cope up with F1, and he is from the Driver development program of the team.
Though getting Hulkenburg or DiRiesta seems more of a safe option, but will they be better than Massa seems to be the question.
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I think Maldonado would be a good candidate. He's shown he is fast when the car is fast, so the rest of the job would be up to Ferrari.
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I think Maldonado would be a good candidate. He's shown he is fast when the car is fast, so the rest of the job would be up to Ferrari.
I'd love to see him in scarlet and a front running car, I've been singing his praises since he joined F1, but with being able to bring big money backing I think he's unlikely to be happy with No 2 status, even at Ferrari.
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I don't think that will matter. Ferrari can take or leave the backing. Maldo would be thrilled to just be on Ferrari, so I don't think he would make any noise about being No.2 for at least a couple of years, and very likely by then Fernando will be retiring or have moved on to a team that can give him a car for WDC.
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Honestly Pastor may have the pace, but he is just too erratic & reckless to be hired by top teams. I think Ferrari is scared to give him a fast car, which might result in more shunts.
I have no doubt about his ability to drive a car, he had shown that last season with that brilliant Spanish GP win, what I question is his judgement to make moves which results in huge crash that are either avoidable or just plain stupidity.
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If he's in a faster car, there likely won't be as many cars in front of him to hit :DntKnw:
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Honestly Pastor may have the pace, but he is just too erratic & reckless to be hired by top teams. I think Ferrari is scared to give him a fast car, which might result in more shunts.
Never stopped Big teams in the past BD. Ferrari hired one Jody Sheckter a real wrecker in his early career and McLaren put their faith in Hunt the Shunt, both took championships in the team's cars. ;)
I'm sure there's many more examples; there's a saying that goes something like this - you can teach drivers not to crash but you can't teach raw speed.
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Pastor's finishing record this year puts him an average of only 0.2 places ahead of a rookie team-mate despite coming 10th in a race from which Valterri retired. It means Pastor isn't fast, isn't improving and isn't consistent or reliable. For a good team that doesn't need the money, it's a no-win situation. Sheckter and Hunt, on the other hand, were fast when they weren't in the wall. This is why Ferrari and McLaren were happy to take a risk on people who'd shown they had good skill underneath.
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About the only thing Pastor has in his favor is boatloads of Venezuelan cash. With the changes in government down there, I wonder how much longer that will last.
Jules Bianchi might be a good move for Ferrari. He does seem to consistently get the best out of his equipment.
As for me, I'm still hoping to see Jarno Trulli return to F1 in a Ferrari.
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Ferrari should take Bianchi.
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Pastor's finishing record this year puts him an average of only 0.2 places ahead of a rookie team-mate despite coming 10th in a race from which Valterri retired. It means Pastor isn't fast, isn't improving and isn't consistent or reliable. For a good team that doesn't need the money, it's a no-win situation. Sheckter and Hunt, on the other hand, were fast when they weren't in the wall. This is why Ferrari and McLaren were happy to take a risk on people who'd shown they had good skill underneath.
With everyone singing the praises of Alonso doing better in the Ferrari than he has any right to do... remember that Maldonado won a race in the 8th best car last year.
When's the last time someone accomplished that?
Even Sebastian Vettel's win for STR was in a 6th best car!
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So true Jeri. Maldo's had some troubles this year, but I still think he has some talent that just needs a bit more than William's soothing touch to bring it out.
But hey, I'm OK with Bianchi also. Nothing would drive the Tifosi mad like having an Italian in the Ferrari. :good:
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Bianchi is French.
Now, Jarno is Italian........ ;)
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I don't think his grandparents are - Bianchi is a name from northern Italy. They deliver our vegetables.
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I thought all of the Italian grandparents of future race drivers had moved to Scotland, like the Franchittis and the Ricciardos. :crazy:
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Well he is shown as a French driver, so he is French, does not matter what 0r where his grandparents live. Now Mario Balotelli is Italian, but sure his grandparents are not, but he is still considered as Italian. Mr. Obama's (Cos's Mr. President) grandparents are not from USA, does it mean he is not a US citizen?
Those yodlers must have done severe damage to Scotty, or may be those mugs are holding much more beer than Scotty can handle :P
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With everyone singing the praises of Alonso doing better in the Ferrari than he has any right to do... remember that Maldonado won a race in the 8th best car last year.
Last year's Williams was much better than that though. The driver line up just performed so inconsistently that they did not do it justice.
Maldonado isn't good enough for Ferrari in my opinion. What does he offer in terms of driving consistency to put him ahead of Massa? Nothing in my view. He's even more erratic, and gets involved in to many collisions.
Ferrari could take Bianchi, but it's probably too early for him to make such a high profile leap at this stage. He's one to watch for the future though, as he's looked good at Marussia.
Massa's problem seems to have arisen since Monaco. He has struggled a lot more since the two accidents in that one race meeting, and I think that he still has Hungary 2009 in the back of his mind every time he has a big accident. This is understandable, so I'm not criticising him.
He is on the record as saying that he did come close to quitting at the end of last season. Maybe the big crashes at Monaco this year have shaken him up a bit? If they have, it might be time for him to retire, but I still think that good results in the next few races will save his Ferrari seat.
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This may very well all be moot as a CNN correspondent has confirmed that Kimi has signed with Ferrari to take Massa's seat for 2014.
Once again....we do not have Ferrari or Raikkonen confirming this out loud yet, but.......
Maybe at the Italian GP. That seems like the place Ferrari likes to announce changes. Just ask Michael S. Or Kimi.
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All I can find are reports that Ferrari will NOT be making any announcement at Monza. :DntKnw: :DntKnw:
http://www.planetf1.com/driver/3370/8898715/No-Ferrari-announcement-at-Monza
http://www.straitstimes.com/breaking-news/sports/story/formula-one-ferrari-say-they-wont-make-driver-announcement-monza-20130831
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Here it is, straight from the prancing horse's mouth:
http://formula1.ferrari.com/news/horse-whisperer-swallow-doesnt-summer
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I seem to remember them, Ferrari, being coy when James Allison's departure from Lotus was announced, look where he is now. ;)
Having the media focus on 'no announcement' doesn't mean the Kimi deals not done. :D
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Massa is soooo past his best before date I am surprised he is still wearing Ferrari red.
Why does the soon to be vacant seat at Ferrari need to be filled by a current driver?
Surely there are many just on the cusp who could be taken under the Ferrari wing so to speak and given the chance of a lifetime.
Why do the lesser teams need to be the ones to give young drivers a chance when all they really want from early carting days is to drive a Ferrari.
The Young Drivers Test should have shown some potential candidates or in the lower classes there my be someone. Or more then one.
I realize this may not have been the way it has been done in the past but why not look at it from a different point of view. Has it always worked in the past?
:DntKnw: :DntKnw: ;)
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You have to prove yourself worthy of a Ferrari before you can join the team.
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Yeah, when is the last time Ferrari hired a rookie, even for their second seat? Must be decades.
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Yeah, when is the last time Ferrari hired a rookie, even for their second seat? Must be decades.
Gilles?
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Yes...I would say Gilles was the last one.
It has been done and maybe should be looked at again.