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F1 News & Discussions => General F1 Discussion => Topic started by: Wizzo on October 22, 2007, 04:54:08 PM
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Ferrari president Luca Cordero di Montezemolo says Kimi Raikkonen's Formula One title is a product of team spirit.
"The difference between us and (McLaren) is that we're a team, and in the last race our drivers helped each other. And in the toughest times we were even more united," Montezemolo told Italian state radio Monday.
"After Hamilton's start and that needless attack on Alonso, I knew we could do it," Montezemolo said.
"It would have been paradoxical if a driver had won with a car that was judged irregular and suspended," Montezemolo said. "Yesterday was a triumph of sport in the face of a lot of controversy and disloyalty. In the end, sports justice prevailed."
Raikkonen is the third Ferrari driver to win in his rookie season with the team, after Juan Manuel Fangio (1956) and Jody Scheckter (1979).
"In eight years we've won six drivers' titles and seven constructors' championships, and we've done it against the best auto manufacturers in the world," Montezemolo said.
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Can't even be gracious in victory. What @&%$£*.
I would love to see his face if the FIA take it back off them.
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Luca could have said were a team and let
it go at that,but nooooo
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I would love to see his face if the FIA take it back off them.
The "we" that Loco di Montezemolo was talking about is Ferrari and the FIA.
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Ferrari president Luca Cordero di Montezemolo says .........
"It would have been paradoxical if a driver had won with a car that was judged irregular .......
Errrrrr? That'd be the irregular Ferrari at the Australian Grand Prix then!
If, perchance he is referring to McLaren - I've yet to see any part of the FIA spygate verdict suggest that the McLaren was not within the current constructor's specifications.
David
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"The difference between us and (McLaren) is that we're a team, and in the last race our drivers helped each other.
You could see from Massa's body language how happy he was to have 'helped' his team mate. Couldn't have been illegal team orders obviously!
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Too bad Massa didn't have a "Fairness Czar" in his pits. Hamilton might be champ.
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I don't think Massa gave it up. Just look at the lap times when Massa pitted. Kimi was schumachersque in his lap times and drove some blistering laps to come out ahead of Massa.
Massa was always equally fast as Kimi for the entire race.
Kimi won it because he is damn good and not because he was handed it by Massa.
This Mclaren adulation at the cost of everything good in F1 is getting sickening.
Maybe this forum should be rebranded mclaren fan forum.
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I don't think Massa gave it up. Just look at the lap times when Massa pitted. Kimi was schumachersque in his lap times and drove some blistering laps to come out ahead of Massa.
Massa was always equally fast as Kimi for the entire race.
Kimi won it because he is damn good and not because he was handed it by Massa.
This Mclaren adulation at the cost of everything good in F1 is getting sickening.
Maybe this forum should be rebranded mclaren fan forum.
You did watch the Brazil GP didn't you?Massa's demeanor
on the podium pretty well told he gave it to Kimi.
The Wiz will take in consideration your suggestion of renaming
GPWizard to Mcclaren fan club but I wouldn't hold my breath
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I don't think Massa gave it to Kimi either, I think Ferrari gave it to him - pulled him in when they knew he'd have traffic 3-4 laps before Kimi while Kimi had a clear track, and Kimi made the best of it. Massa didn't have a chance, but he didn't stop trying.
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Maybe this forum should be rebranded mclaren fan forum.
Actually, since Cosworth is gone, I pull for Super Aguri. I know that Dare is a Renault fan.
Most of us just don't like Ferrari or Fernando. There's a little, family owned Italian restaurant in my home town of Lancaster, OH, USA. Claw_Grrl and I eat there frequently. The wife of the husband and wife that own it was born in Italy. They have always kept a large Ferrari flag in a glass case by the cash register. About halfway through this season, the removed it. When I asked why, they just shook their heads.
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I was an unapologetic Ferrari fan until about a year ago when I finally got fed up with listening to the arrogance of the team bosses (Todt and Loco Luca both). Still sorting out who I'm for as far as teams go, but with the FIA beating McLaren has taken, I give them my support this season. As drivers go, I've always had a soft spot for Ant and a grudging respect for Kimi, and interest in Heidfeld, but Hamilton and Kubica blew me away this year...I really didn't see it coming, so yeah, I'm a fan of theirs as well. At the other end of the spectrum, I'm no fan of Ralf, Alonzo, Massa and Fisi, and any pay driver all of whom have received far more than they've given...the rest, well they fall somewhere in the middle.
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I've got Raindancer sussed. He waits to see what the majority of people are saying then says the complete opposite and sits back to watch the ripples. Either that or he hates Hamilton with a passion because he has been so pro-Alonso I thought he must be related. Now he is anti-McLaren and pro-Ferrari. I'm sure he just enjoys getting us stirred-up!
For the record, I am fairly sure Massa could have won in Brazil. The team changed his strategy and held him in the pits to make sure Kimi was on his way. I guess any team would have done the same but I'm sure nobody else would be so arrogant about it.
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Not really Monty ! I just try to bring in another view. Being from where I am, I am neither a Ferrari fan nor a Mclaren fan. I think Kimi is probably the best driver on the grid right now and Nico next best. Again this based on my own analysis and impressions and is solely my personal opinion.
I also neither belong to Italy nor England. I just try to bring in a new perspective otherwise this forum will become another Ferrari Bashing set without objective assesment.
The intention is not to hurt anyone and I approach this with an Intellectual Passion.
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Unfortunately as Raindancer points out one of the sad things that has happened to the sport over the last few years is that people have started supporting teams or drivers based on nationality. They should be judged by their actions. Part of the Schumacher personality culty was the introduction of people supporting drivers like football fans support their team. As a result there is a generation of fans who were caught up in this cult who have little or no interest or knowledge of the sport and are only interested in their guy winning.
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You have a good point about Schumcher, SR. the same thing happened to basketball over here with Micheal Jordan. During his playing year, attendence and TV ratings for the National Basketball League (NBA) soared. Following Jordan's retirement, they dropped like a rock. LIke F1 for the past few years, many of the new fans came for Micheal and not the sport. Fortunatly, unlike the NBA, F1 has a large base of loing time, die hard fans. (Like us ;))
For many reasons, this has been one of the most polarizing seasons in the history of the sport. Hopefully, these wounds will quickly heal.
Cos
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I don't really agree about people supporting a team for nationality reasons. Ferrari has always been supported by passionate enthusiasts from all over the world and it doesn't seem to matter who is driving for them.
Is Renault a French team or a Britsish team (French owner, British based team. drivers from two different countries).
I think some people follow a driver (I'm a Jenson Button fan and would continue to be whatever car he drives) and others follow a particular team or car Manufacturer.
This year, the problem has been the FIA and not really the teams or the drivers. Even the issues between Ferrari and McLaren could have been reduced if the FIA had handled the situation better.