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F1 News & Discussions => General F1 Discussion => Topic started by: vintly on April 14, 2014, 11:39:18 AM
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As being tweeted now, he's stood down. Fair play to him leaving now, whether Ferrari's malaise is his fault or not.
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I always felt he was too nice to survive at Ferrari!
Do you think they will be calling Mr Brawn?
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I wouldn't be surprised if Brawn has been tapped-up about the job already, but I doubt he'll want it. Vague reports of his wife's ill health, plus his own health has seen him miss a GP or two over recent years. Also he's been there and done that, and he won't be able to top his last stint at Ferrari.
I think he's either retired for good, or would only be interested in the Top Job, if you know what I mean.
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I doubt that Domenicalli is the problem at Ferrari. Sorry to see him go.
It looks like Marco Mattiacci, who has been working as president and CEO of Ferrari's North American operations, will take over responsibility for the F1 team.
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I doubt that Domenicalli is the problem at Ferrari. Sorry to see him go.
It looks like Marco Mattiacci, who has been working as president and CEO of Ferrari's North American operations, will take over responsibility for the F1 team.
In an organisation as complicated as an F1 team, there's always plenty of blame to go 'round. At the end of the day, there's got to be someone who's job is to accept responsibility. Today it is Domenicali.
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We'll see if he is the first of many, or if they really can put all the blame on him.
Pretty big learning curve for Mattiacci, I'd say. He has zero, nil, nada experience with any kind of race team, much less F1, and of course even Scuderia Ferrari.
http://joesaward.wordpress.com/2014/04/14/who-is-marco-mattiacci/
Luca is mad. Why on earth would he bring in his Sales and Business guy to run the F1 team? I'll give Mr. Mattiacci a chance, but it doesn't seem well thought out, more knee jerk. :DntKnw:
The real shame will be that if he fails, his Ferrari career will effectively be over, and by the look of his resume, he was gunning for the top job. Of course if he succeeds, well...
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I know that fundamentally this is a 'management' job but what can Marco Mattiacci bring? To the best of my knowledge he has no experience in F1 and I cannot find any history in any level of motorsport. In fact his CV suggests he is primarily a bean-counter.
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Successful CEOs of US businesses know how to crack heads and Get Things Done. Maybe this is what Ferrari needs, in my not-so-humble opinion.
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Every time a "bean counter" is put in charge of anything car related, the result is almost always a disaster.
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Whilst I like Stefano is it really a surprise that he's going? He's hardly moved the team forward, in fact they've gone backwards from his initial year of 08 when they won the WCC. His one big achievement was signing Nando, but even with that where else did Alonso have to go with his bust up with Macca and the demise of Renault as a works team.
This new hotshot from FIAT's North American division will not be allowed to fail, Luca will move the goalposts as and when if he thinks this guy is really Ferrari/FIAT's future.
What better way is there to start anywhere than after a period of failure within a business? Surely the worst time to take over is from someone jumping ship(sorry retiring) at the end of a long spell as the number one outfit. - Hold on a minute sounds just like when Domenicalli took the reigns from Todt :D
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Successful CEOs of US businesses
This seems to suggest that a US connection is essential to 'knock heads'
Having Managed the successful UK division of a successful Canadian Group which was then acquired by a US Corporation with a tough CEO who then managed to wreck everything good about the Group resulting in a loss of 20% market share in the US, 40% market share in Europe and 70% market share in Canada, I have a slightly different view!
To manage a business effectively you first have to understand the business. Stefano Domenicalli had 20years experience in F1. He hasn't brought huge success but equally he hasn't made a laughing stock of the brand. Also we have no idea of how much scarlet red tape his hands were bound with.
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Successful CEOs of US businesses
This seems to suggest that a US connection is essential to 'knock heads'
Having Managed the successful UK division of a successful Canadian Group which was then acquired by a US Corporation with a tough CEO who then managed to wreck everything good about the Group resulting in a loss of 20% market share in the US, 40% market share in Europe and 70% market share in Canada, I have a slightly different view!
To manage a business effectively you first have to understand the business. Stefano Domenicalli had 20years experience in F1. He hasn't brought huge success but equally he hasn't made a laughing stock of the brand. Also we have no idea of how much scarlet red tape his hands were bound with.
No, you've put two and two together and got five. But I take the point - ditch the 'US'. I guess that addition was a nod towards the highly competitive nature of business in developed economies, not just the US. But I think you know what I was getting at.
To clarify, my point was that apart from all the regular 'plus points' one needs to successfully run a business, the requirement to be able to make tough decisions without fear of upsetting people, whilst maintaining the respect and dedication of your workforce is possibly something that Domenicali lacked, and a successful CEO probably doesn't lack. Of course it's not just about cracking heads.
Is it just a coincidence that Whitmarsh and Domenicali were constantly grinning in defeat when they should have been damn angry? Or was it an indication of their overly passive nature in the role of boss? We wouldn't have seen Brawn or Dennis so happy to lose these last few years.
Should Domenicali be congratulated for not making a laughing stock out of the brand?? This is Ferrari for god's sake! Race wins mean NOTHING without WDCs and WCCs to back them up.
Maybe a trouble-shooter IS all that Ferrari need. A person to whip up a dynamic mix of energy, excellence and a sprinkling of fear within the team? Maybe the race-craft can be left to others. Of course, I'm only surmising here, but one thing's for sure, when you fire someone (or they willingly walk), you hire someone different next time.
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Nothing personal. I have a completely balanced view about US business .... I have a chip on both shoulders!
I do take your point and of course all of the F1 teams must have 'business' at the forefront of their efforts. However, if we look at the other teams the principles are 'enthusiasts'. Even Mercedes (which really worry me because they seem to be trying to manage by committee) have a top management that all have motor racing in their veins. I can't stand Helmut Marko but he has racing pedigree, and Christian Horner, the Williams family (doesn't get much better!), Monisha Kaltenborn started as a business manager but only took over Sauber after 14 years of involvement in F1, Vijay Mallya ... well he is just a playboy but nobody can suggest he isn't an enthusiast, etc., etc. My point is that none of the teams are run by, what could be called, a typical CEO.
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Completely agree with you Monty. 'Winning at any cost' just goes against what every business grad is taught.
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Whether the new guy is successful or not, I hope he's a character who provides interest, and I wouldn't mind if he was extremely controversial and added drama. Even I want to see Ferrari do well, but I'd prefer a real character who tried and failed to an average nice guy who failed to really try.
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I'm sure a 42yr old with Ferrari CEO of Asia/Pacific and CEO of Ferrari North America already under his belt will be a character. I really hope he does well and proves us all wrong - there is so little about him on the internet, maybe he's a hard core couch F1 fan like the rest of us who constantly question the real pro's, and now he has his chance to be one himself and do things his way (though somehow I doubt Luca will give him enough room to do it his way).
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I'm sure a 42yr old with Ferrari CEO of Asia/Pacific and CEO of Ferrari North America already under his belt will be a character. I really hope he does well and proves us all wrong - there is so little about him on the internet, maybe he's a hard core couch F1 fan like the rest of us who constantly question the real pro's, and now he has his chance to be one himself and do things his way (though somehow I doubt Luca will give him enough room to do it his way).
His job is putting the right people in the right place at the right time. F1 experience isn't required, but there will be a learning curve!
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His job is putting the right people in the right place at the right time. F1 experience isn't required, but there will be a learning curve!
But without experience, how will he know who the right people are, and what the right place might be? You may have gathered - I'm not impressed with this appointment ::)
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He's probably only temporary anyways.
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His job is putting the right people in the right place at the right time. F1 experience isn't required, but there will be a learning curve!
But without experience, how will he know who the right people are, and what the right place might be? You may have gathered - I'm not impressed with this appointment ::)
I think that's what makes him qualified though. Assuming he's good at managing, then he'll find out who the right people are. Anyone 'experienced' will have their own ideas of how to do things, and won't necessarily be open to doing it 'right'.
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It is a big gamble for sure, on the one hand we have a brand who has been in the sports for 60 years, but on the other hand it has not been in the cutting edge of the racing in the last decade. So they may be trying to revamp the Ferrari outfit, so bringing a fresh mind may help them to give decision without the Ferrari emotions and sentiments.
But the absolute lack of experience in F1, and appointing him for the top post may be a bit too much to gamble. But then again if you are not gambling big, you will not be a big winner.
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I think the one thing that is really upsetting me is that I am available and they didn't even call! :'(
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I think the one thing that is really upsetting me is that I am available and they didn't even call! :'(
:DD :DD :DD :DD :DD
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He's probably only temporary anyways.
Aren't they all? ;)
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I think the one thing that is really upsetting me is that I am available and they didn't even call! :'(
Your reputation regarding Micheal Schumacher cost you the job Monty :P
Imagine what PR disaster it would have been for Ferrari if their F1 boss regards their crown jewel a "Cheat" :DD :DD
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I think the one thing that is really upsetting me is that I am available and they didn't even call! :'(
Your reputation regarding Micheal Schumacher cost you the job Monty :P
Imagine what PR disaster it would have been for Ferrari if their F1 boss regards their crown jewel a "Cheat" :DD :DD
Heheh good one!
Schumi was a cheat though.
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He's a stop gap isn't he? They want Ross Brawn, and this guy is going to take charge in the interim while they try to persuade Ross to come back. That's my take on it.
I feel sorry for Domenicali. He's a fair boss, and was also willing to talk and be interviewed. He also was a lot more open than Todt, who I thoroughly disliked as Ferrari team boss, not least for his ultra 'Schumacher is always first' attitude to running the team, and his deals with the FIA. In a way, Domenicali was possibly too nice for Ferrari, but I think that he was let down by the design department, and just decided that as team boss, he had to carry the can.
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hehe...when Mattiacci first received the call, he thought it was an April Fools joke.
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They should have gave Flav a shot.As
much as he's disliked he always got the
job done.Ferrari doesn'tcare aboutpersonal
morals and traits only winning.
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I think due to money embezzlement charges as well as others, it will be difficult for Flavio to run operation at Ferrari in Italy, so Ferrari calculated a risk-benefit ratio, and probably the assessment came negative for hiring Flavio. But I do agree with you Dare, he gets the job done, in anyway, regardless of legitimacy or ethical consideration.