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Title: F1 2010 Champion is....
Post by: stealthhaggis on March 08, 2010, 09:47:54 AM
I've put Other as an option just to keep a certain member happy!  :D
Title: Re: F1 2010 Champion is....
Post by: FW14B on March 08, 2010, 10:54:52 AM
That wouldn't be me, would it Stealth?!   :yahoo:

Hulkenberg  ;)

Seriously, I think Vettel
Title: Re: F1 2010 Champion is....
Post by: stealthhaggis on March 08, 2010, 12:43:44 PM
Indeed it was!  :D

I was torn between Vettel and Alonso, both have the quickest cars at the moment. I just think Alonso's hunger is back and his experience will pay off. That and he is n the FIA's vehicle of choice!  :D
Title: Re: F1 2010 Champion is....
Post by: Jericoke on March 08, 2010, 01:35:22 PM
It's going to be a good year.  Probably the most open field I've ever seen.
Title: Re: F1 2010 Champion is....
Post by: Dare on March 08, 2010, 01:38:55 PM
Alonso for me!!!

Last time Alonso won WDC MS was a driver,a
coincidence?I think not*
Title: Re: F1 2010 Champion is....
Post by: Scott on March 08, 2010, 01:40:51 PM
Vettel - it'll be a tough year, but I think he'll show the best.
Title: Re: F1 2010 Champion is....
Post by: FW14B on March 08, 2010, 01:56:17 PM
Interesting that so far no one expects the reigning champion to hold onto his title...
Title: Re: F1 2010 Champion is....
Post by: Dare on March 08, 2010, 02:00:04 PM
Interesting that so far no one expects the reigning champion to hold onto his title...

What did Button do last year,win 5 of 6 first races and
just wrap the title up in Brazil.With this new points
system would the season have been as close?

Title: Re: F1 2010 Champion is....
Post by: cosworth151 on March 08, 2010, 02:04:43 PM
What? No Jarno? This season I can finally cheer for him again, now that he's out of that #@*!#!%*! Toyota!

OK, Vettel.
Title: Re: F1 2010 Champion is....
Post by: stealthhaggis on March 08, 2010, 03:13:13 PM
There is the 'Other' option there if you want to waste I mean, use your vote in a different way!  :D

Where are all the Schumacher fans then?!

As for Jenson, well McLaren are a little behind Ferrari and RB already so are playing catch up. Add to that he is playing catch up with Lewis, he's not got much chance to be honest.
Title: Re: F1 2010 Champion is....
Post by: Andy B on March 08, 2010, 03:15:18 PM
I think its assumption that Vettel ande Alonso have the fastest cars that will only be told on Saturday in qualifying and the race on Sunday I hope its going to be one of the most open seasons for a long time.
I would like Lewis, is it ok to say just Lewis?, to come out on top at the end of the season but I would not put money on it or anyone else.
Title: Re: F1 2010 Champion is....
Post by: cosworth151 on March 08, 2010, 03:17:10 PM
Just a bit of snark, SH.  ;)

I just wanted an excuse for picking Vettel over Trulli.
Title: Re: F1 2010 Champion is....
Post by: stealthhaggis on March 08, 2010, 03:19:09 PM
Just a bit of snark, SH.  ;)

I just wanted an excuse for picking Vettel over Trulli.

How about he's in a better car and can drive around the circuit without creating a conga??!  :D
Title: Re: F1 2010 Champion is....
Post by: stealthhaggis on March 08, 2010, 03:22:32 PM
I think its assumption that Vettel ande Alonso have the fastest cars that will only be told on Saturday in qualifying and the race on Sunday I hope its going to be one of the most open seasons for a long time.
I would like Lewis, is it ok to say just Lewis?, to come out on top at the end of the season but I would not put money on it or anyone else.

Very true, everything is assumption and if there is an advantage then I would be surprised if the other teams don't catch up very quickly. And when they do, we have a new points system that is supposed to encourage racing right up until the last lap. Typically just in time for the top 4 teams to have at least one driver in their cars who do not give up!
Title: Re: F1 2010 Champion is....
Post by: John S on March 08, 2010, 03:35:13 PM
Interesting that so far no one expects the reigning champion to hold onto his title...

What did Button do last year,win 5 of 6 first races and
just wrap the title up in Brazil.With this new points
system would the season have been as close?


Well I'm sticking with Jens, the season is long and I'm sure most of us will be regretting our choices by mid point. I also think Schumi and Ferd will be close behind without getting the cigar.

If the new scoring had been in place last year Button would have won by a bigger margin, he won the most races, it's now a very big points gap between First and 2nd. So more wins and a good steady finishing record pays off.   :P

 
Title: Re: F1 2010 Champion is....
Post by: stealthhaggis on March 08, 2010, 03:55:23 PM
Interesting that so far no one expects the reigning champion to hold onto his title...

What did Button do last year,win 5 of 6 first races and
just wrap the title up in Brazil.With this new points
system would the season have been as close?


Well I'm sticking with Jens, the season is long and I'm sure most of us will be regretting our choices by mid point. I also think Schumi and Ferd will be close behind without getting the cigar.

If the new scoring had been in place last year Button would have won by a bigger margin, he won the most races, it's now a very big points gap between First and 2nd. So more wins and a good steady finishing record pays off.   :P

 

I hope Jenson does prove us all wrong and moves up a gear, at this moment in time I just can't see him getting past Lewis but only time will tell and as you say, it's a long season. One of the most exciting for years!
Title: Re: F1 2010 Champion is....
Post by: Ian on March 08, 2010, 07:28:00 PM
Gee, I'm the only one so far who picked Michael.  :P
Title: Re: F1 2010 Champion is....
Post by: FW14B on March 08, 2010, 08:56:25 PM
Michael has it in him to win still, but I am not certain the car has the speed yet. 
Title: Re: F1 2010 Champion is....
Post by: david1275 on March 08, 2010, 09:04:16 PM
Massa, because I believe.  :yahoo: :yahoo:
Title: Re: F1 2010 Champion is....
Post by: Scott on March 08, 2010, 09:34:18 PM
Massa, because I believe.  :yahoo: :yahoo:

Those red coloured glasses are getting foggy   ;) ;)
Title: Re: F1 2010 Champion is....
Post by: PG_Gabriel on March 09, 2010, 01:42:42 AM
If I had to bet i would say Vettel, but honestly iam completely stumped on this one, i think we can expect vettel, hamilton, alonso, button, shumi, and possible mark and massa all to have a shot
Title: Re: F1 2010 Champion is....
Post by: stealthhaggis on March 09, 2010, 09:44:17 AM
Exactly, such an open year. Good spread of drivers in top teams. You could argue that the weakest line up of the 'top 4' teams is MGP with an old bloke and an erratic driver who has yet to prove himself. Obviously the old bloke is Schumacher but even he will take a few races to get up to full speed again. The other 3 teams all have race winners in both seats. Thats at least 7 experienced winners in 7 fast cars. Look outside the 'top 4' and you've got Williams with a still hungry Rubens & Renault with a very hungry Kubica. 2 potential feather ruffler's there. Obviously it depends how quick the cars are but I am sure they will be up there every so often and will make a nuisance of themselves during the season. Add to that the very quickly improving Force India's with their crash happy drivers and the Saubers with they're classic experience rookie mix and it's going to be a great season.
Title: Re: F1 2010 Champion is....
Post by: John S on March 09, 2010, 09:51:54 AM

The 'Old Bloke' you refer to SH has been on the pace in testing from the get go this year, unlike the ageing replacements (yes incl Fischi) drafted in to cover for the absent Massa last year. I know the Ferrari last year was a dog but it's a drivers ability to jump into different cars and get on the pace that marks the greats out. IMO it's the car that needs some improvement in the Merc team before they can win a championship not the old bloke. :P 
Title: Re: F1 2010 Champion is....
Post by: stealthhaggis on March 09, 2010, 10:02:45 AM
 :D Ah my first bite. 

He's still old! :P
Title: Re: F1 2010 Champion is....
Post by: John S on March 09, 2010, 11:20:19 AM

This is the latest betting odds on who will take the WDC, courtesy of ManipeF1.com. It looks like we are not putting our money where our mouths suggest :D

Double world champion Fernando Alonso heads into this weekend's Bahrain Grand Prix the bookies' favourite to scoop his third crown at the end of the season, following a strong showing in pre-season testing by Italian marque Ferrari. At odds of 5/2, Alonso is being touted as reigning champion Jenson Button's successor in 2010, with the Briton lying just sixth on the list, at an outside 11/1.

With four teams expected to battle it out for victories over the course of the year, the top four favourites for the 2010 title come from four different outfits. Joint second favourites are McLaren's Lewis Hamilton and Red Bull's Sebastian Vettel on 4/1, while odds of 5/1 are being offered for the returning Michael Schumacher to extend his record to eight titles.

Team-mates of the top quartet make up the next four favourites in the same order, with Felipe Massa (8/1), Button (11/1), Mark Webber (12/1) and Nico Rosberg (20/1) all being considered as outside bets should their team-mates and rivals falter.

BMW Sauber's impressive pre-season form has seen the bookies place rookie Kamui Kobayashi on odds of 40/1, followed by Renault's Robert Kubica (50/1). Rubens Barrichello, Nico Hülkenberg and Pedro de la Rosa are all at 66/1.

At the other end of the scale, punters can get odds of 500/1 for India's Karun Chandhok to land the title in his rookie year, while Jaime Alguersuari and Lucas Di Grassi are next worse off on 300/1.


Title: Re: F1 2010 Champion is....
Post by: stealthhaggis on March 09, 2010, 12:34:40 PM
Well some of you have!  :D My money is on Alonso. Although a warning for all of you Alonso fans, my money is usually wasted, badly! Have to admit I was surprised people put Hamilton ahead of Vettel, although I rate Hamilton I was of the opinion Vettel has the better car. Massa has very strong odds compared to Button which I am surprised about. I would have put Jenson Massa and Webber in the same sort of bracket as they are all in the same boat really.
Title: Re: F1 2010 Champion is....
Post by: Ian on March 09, 2010, 07:01:17 PM
I got 13/2 on Michael with paddypower.
Title: Re: F1 2010 Champion is....
Post by: FW14B on March 09, 2010, 08:20:11 PM
I have no luck gambling on anything, so I'll have to pass.  Some tempting deals though on Paddypower that I noticed. 
Title: Re: F1 2010 Champion is....
Post by: david1275 on March 09, 2010, 08:39:04 PM
Massa, because I believe.  :yahoo: :yahoo:

Those red coloured glasses are getting foggy   ;) ;)

Never been clearer Scott. If Massa doesn't get it Alonso will.

It's a Ferrari year, I can feel it in my bones.  :yahoo:
Title: Re: F1 2010 Champion is....
Post by: stealthhaggis on March 11, 2010, 05:49:45 PM
So the majority on here have gone for Vettel, then joint favourites are Hamilton and Alonso followed by Button ahead of Schumacher and Massa. If the Red Bulls are able to stay in one piece and the Reno engine in the back actually works for a change they will certainly be right up there and everyone seems to agree that it will be Vettel leading the charge for them. I am surprised more folks didn't go for Alonso considering Ferrari have been working on that car since the middle of last year. It did show some reliability problems in testing though which must be a worry for them. I think it says a lot for Hamilton that he is up there with Alonso considering the common consensus is that their car is a little slower than the RB and the Ferrari.

Roll on tomorrow for the start of the new season proper!
Title: Re: F1 2010 Champion is....
Post by: Jericoke on March 11, 2010, 06:36:29 PM
So the majority on here have gone for Vettel, then joint favourites are Hamilton and Alonso followed by Button ahead of Schumacher and Massa. If the Red Bulls are able to stay in one piece and the Reno engine in the back actually works for a change they will certainly be right up there and everyone seems to agree that it will be Vettel leading the charge for them. I am surprised more folks didn't go for Alonso considering Ferrari have been working on that car since the middle of last year. It did show some reliability problems in testing though which must be a worry for them. I think it says a lot for Hamilton that he is up there with Alonso considering the common consensus is that their car is a little slower than the RB and the Ferrari.

Roll on tomorrow for the start of the new season proper!

The main thing that Red Bull has ahead of the others in the 'Big 4' is continuity.  Same drivers, same principles, same designers.  It's not a gurantee of success, but if it gives them a headstart in terms of team chemistry, that's got to be worth 5 points early in the season... and even under the new system, I have a feeling that 5 points will be within the margin of victory.
Title: Re: F1 2010 Champion is....
Post by: stealthhaggis on March 11, 2010, 07:50:02 PM
Good point, and if they get their engine upgrade it could really give them a big boost. Funny though, 5 points doesn't seem much when you look at the new points system! Would be fantastic if the season was that close again.
Title: Re: F1 2010 Champion is....
Post by: FW14B on March 11, 2010, 08:46:56 PM
I'm actually beginning to have doubts about my choice :o
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