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Title: Piquetslaunch 200K claim against Briatore.
Post by: Chris Borg on March 31, 2010, 02:17:34 PM
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Title: Re: Piquetslaunch 200K claim against Briatore.
Post by: Jericoke on March 31, 2010, 03:05:17 PM
200K sounds like an amount that is calculated to be not worth fighting in court for Renault, but enough to make headlines.
Title: Re: Piquetslaunch 200K claim against Briatore.
Post by: judy on March 31, 2010, 05:22:21 PM
It does not matter who win this case because both Piquet Jr and Flavio are 'finished' in F1. It is not likely any F1 team would sign Piquet Jr and neither would any team be interested to employ Flavio as team boss for the next few years. It is also most unlikely that any F1 driver would want to appoint Flavio as their manager.

Most probably, the court case will only attract headlines without any real impact on F1.
Title: Re: Piquetslaunch 200K claim against Briatore.
Post by: david1275 on March 31, 2010, 07:43:20 PM
200k!! Flavs yatch would burn more diesel in a year.  :DD

I never really liked Flav, but I sort of miss him now. Guess you don't know what you got until it's gone. Don't seem to miss Junior so much.
Title: Re: Piquetslaunch 200K claim against Briatore.
Post by: FW14B on March 31, 2010, 08:08:57 PM
To be honest I haven't missed him, what with the new teams and their problems, I have found more than enough to make up for him not being here this year! 

As for the 200k claim, I am inclined to agree with what Jeri said, definitely it is a calculated amount for that reason.
Title: Re: Piquetslaunch 200K claim against Briatore.
Post by: John S on March 31, 2010, 08:42:28 PM

I agree with Jeri as well WF about the calculated amount of money, but I rather think Flavio will want it go to court, I'm not sure that he has ever admitted any part in crashgate. I would also guess that Pat is unlikely to give any comfort to the Piquets by implicating Flav, so it will be interesting just how they can show he is culpable.

I still think there are few men with big enough balls to push a middle team to become championship winners, Flav is one of those and F1 could do with him especially now as sponsors are hard to find. He like Bernie, for all their faults, has proved himself a very smart operator and teams like HRT or even Sauber could do with his flamboyant and fundraising skills.

 

Title: Re: Piquetslaunch 200K claim against Briatore.
Post by: Jericoke on March 31, 2010, 09:08:29 PM

I still think there are few men with big enough balls to push a middle team to become championship winners, Flav is one of those and F1 could do with him especially now as sponsors are hard to find. He like Bernie, for all their faults, has proved himself a very smart operator and teams like HRT or even Sauber could do with his flamboyant and fundraising skills.


Getting results at your job isn't enough any more.  How you get those results matters more now.  Obviously I can't speak to the way Flavio got results, but a hypothetically mean person might no longer be welcome in F1, regardless of how many points/sponsors they earned.

Ironically, I think Flavio was the person in F1 who best understood that appearances are at least as important as results.  He just didn't know that in the modern age, there is so much more information and innuendo that affet those appearances.
Title: Re: Piquetslaunch 200K claim against Briatore.
Post by: cosworth151 on April 01, 2010, 01:40:58 PM
Blabbio and young Piquet deserve each other. A pox on both their houses.
Title: Re: Piquetslaunch 200K claim against Briatore.
Post by: FW14B on April 01, 2010, 02:05:35 PM
Yup, couldn't agree more Cos!
Title: Re: Piquetslaunch 200K claim against Briatore.
Post by: judy on April 01, 2010, 04:57:44 PM
I never like Flavio and Junior, so I don't miss them. I would prefer that they don't come back to F1 at all. I fully afree with Cos that both deserve each other.
Title: Re: Piquetslaunch 200K claim against Briatore.
Post by: Chris Borg on April 01, 2010, 05:01:00 PM
I never like Flavio and Junior, so I don't miss them. I would prefer that they don't come back to F1 at all. I fully afree with Cos that both deserve each other.


No matter what any court says, in my opinion they both lied, and have been a disgrace to Formula 1. I do not miss Flavio at all, and neither Piquet Junior for that matter. :nono:
Title: Re: Piquetslaunch 200K claim against Briatore.
Post by: judy on April 01, 2010, 05:14:12 PM
I am sure both Flavio and Junior lied. Even Massa suspected that immediately after the race.
Title: Re: Piquetslaunch 200K claim against Briatore.
Post by: John S on April 01, 2010, 05:52:31 PM

I am sure both Flavio and Junior lied. Even Massa suspected that immediately after the race.

I think when you are in the Ferrari team and it's not one of your own on the top step you always suspect a conspiracy by someone. goes with the territory.  :P  :DD :DD

 

Title: Re: Piquetslaunch 200K claim against Briatore.
Post by: Chris Borg on April 01, 2010, 10:47:16 PM

I am sure both Flavio and Junior lied. Even Massa suspected that immediately after the race.

I think when you are in the Ferrari team and it's not one of your own on the top step you always suspect a conspiracy by someone. goes with the territory.  :P  :DD :DD

By no means do I support Ferrari, but as the result stood at Singapore, it did not do Massa any favours!!!! :crazy:

 


Title: Re: Piquetslaunch 200K claim against Briatore.
Post by: Dare on April 01, 2010, 11:09:36 PM
Don't count Flav out,I wouldn't be a bit
surprised to see him return and he did
bring a flair that none of the other team
leaders show.

The only person who admitted any wrong doing
was Piquet and he didn't even get a slap on the
wrist.I'd imagine he's on the black list now and
rightfully so.


Title: Re: Piquetslaunch 200K claim against Briatore.
Post by: Scott on April 02, 2010, 10:50:32 AM
It is also most unlikely that any F1 driver would want to appoint Flavio as their manager.

That may not be true.  With the French courts letting Flav back into his business, Webber for one has said publicly he would keep Flavio as long as he's allowed to.
Title: Re: Piquetslaunch 200K claim against Briatore.
Post by: judy on April 02, 2010, 05:54:42 PM
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The only person who admitted any wrong doing
was Piquet and he didn't even get a slap on the
wrist.I'd imagine he's on the black list now and
rightfully so.

It is true that Flavio never admitted any wrong doing but one of them (I could not remember whether Flavio or Pat) did admit involvement indirectly, by claiming that the idea of crashing was actually suggested by Junior.

If there was no discussion at all on the crashing, the person would not react with a comment that the idea come from Junior.

Furthermore, assuming that Junior did indeed made the suggestion, Flavio could easily tell him off if he does not agree. As a team boss, Flavio had the final say. I am sure if Flavio has objected to the idea, Junior would not go ahead with crashing his car as it will not benefit him in any way.
Title: Re: Piquetslaunch 200K claim against Briatore.
Post by: judy on April 02, 2010, 06:03:09 PM
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It is also most unlikely that any F1 driver would want to appoint Flavio as their manager.


That may not be true.  With the French courts letting Flav back into his business, Webber for one has said publicly he would keep Flavio as long as he's allowed to.

I was wrong in that comment. However, I think both Alonso and Heikki changed their manager.
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