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Title: Wasn't that bad was it?
Post by: markfarrell9572 on June 26, 2011, 07:31:52 PM
A lot of negative comments on the GP today, but it wasn't too bad was it?  It just didn't live up to the season so far.  Even so it was better than a lot of races over the last decade.
Title: Re: Wasn't that bad was it?
Post by: Ian on June 26, 2011, 07:33:27 PM
Not too bad I suppose Mark, it had it's moments
Title: Re: Wasn't that bad was it?
Post by: Canada Darrell™ on June 26, 2011, 07:33:54 PM
From a midfielder fan's perspective I would agree. For the front of the pack though pretty boring but also what a well run race by everyone. Lots of respect...except for what's-his-name holding up Webber for a second.
Title: Re: Wasn't that bad was it?
Post by: Dare on June 26, 2011, 07:34:02 PM
it wasn't too good either.I hope  the other teams
eventually challenge Vettel nad get away from a
1 driver dominence
Title: Re: Wasn't that bad was it?
Post by: Canada Darrell™ on June 26, 2011, 07:38:56 PM
it wasn't too good either.I hope  the other teams
eventually challenge Vettel nad get away from a
1 driver dominence

I get what you're saying but I am pretty much convinced we are seeing a truly huge talent blosoming right before our eyes. He's heads above the level of a very good driver in his teammate Webber in an identical car. He's heaps faster than everyone else.

He is Tiger Woods 10 years ago
He is Wayne Gretzky 20 years ago

The little puke is all growed up.  :D
Title: Re: Wasn't that bad was it?
Post by: Dare on June 26, 2011, 07:45:01 PM
I'm afraid your right Darrell.That's the scarey thing with
no team orders[I hope]he's making Webber look bad
Title: Re: Wasn't that bad was it?
Post by: Scott on June 26, 2011, 07:50:25 PM
First race I missed this year...and I'm glad the reviews are mixed.  No DNFs?  WTH??  Maybe instead of sprinklers to liven things up, Bernie should install a few spike strips that shoot up at random  ;)
Title: Re: Wasn't that bad was it?
Post by: Dare on June 26, 2011, 07:52:52 PM
Maybe they should hire the falling down mareshall for the
rest of this years races
Title: Re: Wasn't that bad was it?
Post by: John S on June 26, 2011, 07:53:43 PM

Not great by this year's standard but not too bad, they had to work for overtakes even with the double flappy wing zones. I think a lot of drivers found it hard to pass in the flappy wing zone as they hadn't got their 7th gear right; they had a choice either compromise with a too big gear for normal running and have the extra available, or run a smaller 7th and be unable to make passes on low downforce cars. Many were bouncing off the rev limiter in the zone.   

Not one single car in the wall and the only damage seems to have been Shumi's front wing, now either they are all playing nice or the heat got to them???  :D  The front was a lot more bunched up the whole race so I don't suppose a safety car would have made any difference. 

I'd give the race 5 out of 10. 

We'll have to see if the changes for Silverstone do throw Red Bull a curved ball, the next few races may tell us if it's the car or the man running away at the top of the lists at present.




 
Title: Re: Wasn't that bad was it?
Post by: David on June 26, 2011, 08:29:23 PM
Not what we have been used too this season, but I blame the track.
Title: Re: Wasn't that bad was it?
Post by: Jericoke on June 26, 2011, 08:44:57 PM
Not what we have been used too this season, but I blame the track.

I blame the new engine mapping rules.

The cars went the exact same speed in Quali and Race Day.

Without any changes, why would there be any passing?
Title: Re: Wasn't that bad was it?
Post by: David on June 26, 2011, 09:32:08 PM
Not what we have been used too this season, but I blame the track.

I blame the new engine mapping rules.

The cars went the exact same speed in Quali and Race Day.

Without any changes, why would there be any passing?

Good point.  :good:
Title: Re: Wasn't that bad was it?
Post by: romephius on June 26, 2011, 09:35:21 PM
Sorry, but, the cars were heaps slower in the race compared to Quali.

Pole was a 1:36.9 and the fastest lap was 5 seconds slower.... that was due to the face they could use DRS the entire lap during quali and only on certain occasions during the race.  Coulthard mentioned it several times. (I hope I remembered the quali time correctly).

Just a thought.
Title: Re: Wasn't that bad was it?
Post by: Jericoke on June 27, 2011, 12:25:32 AM
Sorry, but, the cars were heaps slower in the race compared to Quali.

Pole was a 1:36.9 and the fastest lap was 5 seconds slower.... that was due to the face they could use DRS the entire lap during quali and only on certain occasions during the race.  Coulthard mentioned it several times. (I hope I remembered the quali time correctly).

Just a thought.

Exact same relative speed then   :DntKnw:

I'm sure there are many factors that go into a dull race... universal understanding of the new rules and how to conduct tire strategy... track layout... modified engine rules
Title: Re: Wasn't that bad was it?
Post by: Willy on June 27, 2011, 01:23:49 AM
Maybe instead of sprinklers to liven things up, Bernie should install a few spike strips that shoot up at random   (ftp://Maybe instead of sprinklers to liven things up, Bernie should install a few spike strips that shoot up at random)
Great idea....pop-ups at random times and locations.  And it would add a new dimension for the citizens on the road circuits during the year.

As to todays race.....
A bit of a snorefest.
I have not been a fan of the Valencia track since it first arrived on the calender.

I am also getting tired of watching Vettel run away with races. Reminds me of Schumi in the early seasons on this millennium.
Title: Re: Wasn't that bad was it?
Post by: Dare on June 27, 2011, 01:52:50 AM
I thought at  first it was the car but with Webber not winning
any races and being beaten for 2nd I'm not so sure the cars to
blame,another Schumi is here I'm afraid
Title: Re: Wasn't that bad was it?
Post by: Jugirl on June 27, 2011, 08:40:07 AM
Well from my perspective it was a great race, second for my Fernando was as good as can be expected at this moment (If not one place higher as he did well to beat Webber) ;)

Hopefully the new regulations at the British Grand Prix will close the gap entirely and I can see him where he belongs....on the top step :D

Ju
Title: Re: Wasn't that bad was it?
Post by: Williamsfan on June 27, 2011, 09:19:46 AM
In my humble opinion it was a pretty poor race, maybe that is due to the excitement of Canada but I just felt it was dull with little excitement or incident.
Title: Re: Wasn't that bad was it?
Post by: Andy B on June 27, 2011, 10:01:17 AM
It was the usual Valencia bore!!
The fact that the other races have been stunning this year the only thing that can be said is that it was better than previous years but in comparison to the other races this year it was a bore.

Bore. Bore. Bore.
Title: Re: Wasn't that bad was it?
Post by: cosworth151 on June 27, 2011, 12:41:44 PM
Yet another Tilke parade ground. Pretty scenery and dull racing.
Title: Re: Wasn't that bad was it?
Post by: stealthhaggis on June 27, 2011, 04:37:53 PM
Personally I'd make the Spanish alternate between Valencia & Barcelona and free up the European GP to go to tracks we'd like to see back in F1 like San Marino. Spain should not be allowed to have 2 tracks in F1, dull ones at that! No country should. It could alternate between Venues around F1 and give us something different to look forward to each season and offer the countries a cheaper way back into F1 or even a new country a way onto the calender.

I'd put France & San Marino in as European GP races, I'd also stick Hungary in that bracket, frees up another space for a decent track. Also if a track like Turkey can't afford a long term deal due to a lack of people then it would not completely be lost to F1.
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