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F1 News & Discussions => General F1 Discussion => Topic started by: Dare on October 02, 2014, 05:53:41 PM
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A few weeks ago I would have said no way Alonso
to McClaren......now I think he'll be there and probably
Vettel will have a seat at Ferrari.If Lewis doesn't win the
title he'll be at Red Bull
(http://)http://www.auto123.com/en/racing-news/f1-fernando-alonso-says-he-can-decide-formula-1-future?artid=171725&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social-media&utm_campaign=racing
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So who fills the gap at Mercedes?
Hmmm. I was going to rule Button out... but he DID win the only championship for the Brackley outfit. He might be a good fit.
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I don't think Lewis is going anywhere. Nor do I think Vettel is.
Bianchi will take the 2nd seat at Ferrari and Magnussen will be out at Mclaren. Otherwise the top teams will stay the same - just my prediction.
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I still can't see Alonso going to McLaren. There's too much history between him and Ron Dennis, and the Honda engine package is too much of an unknown quantity.
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I still can't see Alonso going to McLaren. There's too much history between him and Ron Dennis, and the Honda engine package is too much of an unknown quantity.
Maybe that was one of Alonso's requirements for coming to
Mclaren.....it's either me or Ron ;)
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Official, Alonso leaving Ferrari and Vettel leaving Red Bull.
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And Ron still avoiding the question as best he can...
http://www1.skysports.com/f1/news/12433/9502382/ron-dennis-denies-that-mclaren-have-already-signed-fernando-alonso-for-2015
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Yep, I got this one a bit wrong :D!
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Yep, I got this one a bit wrong :D!
Would have been more fun if they let us spend more time guessing!
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OK, this is off the wall stuff, but I read an article that suggested Merc is not happy with Lewis. I have searched and searched, but I can't relocate it. The rumor is that he has not been as fast as they expected. They thought he would be clearly quicker than Nico and that hasn't been the case. They are also not pleased that he has blown off team orders to let Nico by on more than one occasion. In particular, they felt Nico had a good shot at winning in Hungary if Lewis had slowed and let him by as directed. If forced to choose, they would keep Nico over Lewis. So how about this, Lewis is handed his hat and packed off to Macca while Ferd becomes a Mercedes driver. Long shot, but possible.
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OK, this is off the wall stuff, but I read an article that suggested Merc is not happy with Lewis. I have searched and searched, but I can't relocate it. The rumor is that he has not been as fast as they expected. They thought he would be clearly quicker than Nico and that hasn't been the case. They are also not pleased that he has blown off team orders to let Nico by on more than one occasion. In particular, they felt Nico had a good shot at winning in Hungary if Lewis had slowed and let him by as directed. If forced to choose, they would keep Nico over Lewis. So how about this, Lewis is handed his hat and packed off to Macca while Ferd becomes a Mercedes driver. Long shot, but possible.
That would be an exciting prospect, but I think so much in the media linking Alonso to Honda makes that scenario less likely. Would be interesting to see him driving the Merc though.
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OK, this is off the wall stuff, but I read an article that suggested Merc is not happy with Lewis. I have searched and searched, but I can't relocate it. The rumor is that he has not been as fast as they expected. They thought he would be clearly quicker than Nico and that hasn't been the case. They are also not pleased that he has blown off team orders to let Nico by on more than one occasion. In particular, they felt Nico had a good shot at winning in Hungary if Lewis had slowed and let him by as directed. If forced to choose, they would keep Nico over Lewis. So how about this, Lewis is handed his hat and packed off to Macca while Ferd becomes a Mercedes driver. Long shot, but possible.
I get the feeling that with Mercedes there's a strong 'what have you done for me lately' attitude. The article might have been 'true' when written, but with the fans turning against Nico, that would make Lewis the Golden Boy.
Truly, I think that Nico has been in the shadows of F1, and the fact that Lewis isn't faster is a testament to Nico's true skill, not a deterioration of Lewis's. (Surely they noticed that Nico was faster than Michael Schumacher? That has to count for something.)
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Jeri, I think the only reason Nico is faster than Michael is the fact that it's a totally new and better car than what Michael had.
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No, I think she means when they were together in the team, Nico beat Michael more often than not.
How's this for a rumour - heard it from an F1 fan in Zurich. Alonso is buying Sauber :crazy: :crazy:
Personally, I doubt it. ;)
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No, I think she means when they were together in the team, Nico beat Michael more often than not.
How's this for a rumour - heard it from an F1 fan in Zurich. Alonso is buying Sauber :crazy: :crazy:
Personally, I doubt it. ;)
Yes, that is what I meant. Even conceding Michael's 'declining years', I think Nico proved himself a top flight driver in search of a top flight car. Now he's got it, and proven himself to be Hamilton's equal in many ways (I think that Hamilton's experience with Alonso and his own WDC give him an edge in mental toughness over Rosberg, but once this season is done, Nico will have that as well)
The best rumours are the feasible ones. Not many former drivers run successful programmes, but then again, there are very few successul F1 programmes in general.
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Sorry Jeri, mis-read your post.
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Sorry Jeri, mis-read your post.
Y u no understand?
Me speek very gud!
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And now the latest...rumours suggesting Hammy to return to Mclaren? Leaving the door open for Alonso to join the team he would probably have the best chance with in 2015? That would be fun. Of course everyone denies it.
I wonder if Flavio planted the rumour to make everyone show their cards?
http://www.pitpass.com/52661/Hamilton-to-McLaren-claim-utterly-without-foundation
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Oh, there's lots of interesting stuff out there filled with Alonso speculation.
The following one suggests Alonso was surprised by the RBR announcement, both in timing and the fact that he thought Hamilton was signing for Ferrari (leaving a seat open at Merc). If he is now on his back foot negotiating with Ron, he's going to get the short end of the stick, I'm sure. Mclaren are sitting pretty if Alonso has no other viable choice for a seat (though like someone said, Williams might be worth a ponder).
I'm a little confused by this typo though '“The Spanish star wants only a one-year contract, while Alonso is insisting on a commitment of at least two years,” said Vasconcelos.' Which is it? Mclaren I suppose is looking for the longer commitment (or perhaps Honda).
http://www.gptoday.com/full_story/view/503454/Alonso_in_tough_McLaren_negotiations__report/
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Oh, there's lots of interesting stuff out there filled with Alonso speculation.
The following one suggests Alonso was surprised by the RBR announcement, both in timing and the fact that he thought Hamilton was signing for Ferrari (leaving a seat open at Merc). If he is now on his back foot negotiating with Ron, he's going to get the short end of the stick, I'm sure. Mclaren are sitting pretty if Alonso has no other viable choice for a seat (though like someone said, Williams might be worth a ponder).
http://www.gptoday.com/full_story/view/503454/Alonso_in_tough_McLaren_negotiations__report/
Alonso and Kimi were the two drivers who set off the current trend of younger and younger F1 drivers.
There would be a certain irony if Alonso found himself squeezed out of the sport early by younger drivers taking good seats at McLaren and Red Bull
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It is really starting to look grim for Alonso. I think if he takes a sabbatical he could jeopardise a top team comeback. It will give the chance for every driver on the top teams to shine themselves and make a gamble on him less attractive.
I know every driver wants the best money and contract that they can get, but I really think Alonso has no option now than to sign at Mclaren for not the best cash and for at least 2yrs (Honda and Mclaren both don't want him signing a one year contract and then bolting to another team at the end of next year when other seats open up). I see no other option for him at the moment. If I was Mclaren, I would offer him $50/yr for 2 yrs. ;) Tell him he already got paid when they had their $100m fine.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/116233
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The following one suggests Alonso was surprised by the RBR announcement,
I'm sure he was, but wasn't that Red Bulls intention? ;)
They may not have been able to announce that Vettel is going to Ferrari but they were determined to cause as much pressure to other teams and drivers as possible, that's the F1 way isn't it? :D
As far as I know Nando has not ruled out staying at Ferrari, he must surely either have a firm contract or an option for 2015 at Maranello, so I can't see there is only a seat a Macca open to him. :confused:
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Fernando won't be driving at Ferrari next year. Of that I'm certain (ok, 99% - nothing is for sure in F1 either).
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And now some Hamilton speculation thrown in for good measure...
http://www.gptoday.com/full_story/view/503719/Now_Hamilton_sucked_into_2015_F1_silly_season/
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Why oh why would Lewis give up a guaranteed 2015 seat at Mercedes for an unknown future at Macca? :DntKnw:
Even if the worst scenario unfolds and Lewis loses the title fight this year it wont be because the team arranged it, so he still has all to play for next year.
Merc is still likely be a race winning car in 2015, why take the risk at Macca - when a seat for a driver like Lewis will still almost certainly be open in other front running teams, if not Macca - for the year after? :confused:
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Why oh why would Lewis give up a guaranteed 2015 seat at Mercedes for an unknown future at Macca? :DntKnw:
Even if the worst scenario unfolds and Lewis loses the title fight this year it wont be because the team arranged it, so he still has all to play for next year.
Merc is still likely be a race winning car in 2015, why take the risk at Macca - when a seat for a driver like Lewis will still almost certainly be open in other front running teams, if not Macca - for the year after? :confused:
Remember when it was 'crazy' for Hamilton to go from a safe big team at McLaren to an underperforming, too many chiefs, desperate to stave off the shareholders Mercedes?
I have faith that IF Hamilton flips teams, then he sees something that we, as fans, simply aren't privy to.
As a driver hoping to win F1 races, I wouldn't move from Mercedes to McLaren. However, as someone who owes their racing career to the faith of Ron Dennis, the decision would be much less clear cut. Sometimes it's nice to go home.
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Remember when it was 'crazy' for Hamilton to go from a safe big team at McLaren to an underperforming, too many chiefs, desperate to stave off the shareholders Mercedes?
It wasn't viewed as crazy by most of us, rather unexpected maybe.
Macca had failed to give Lewis a championship winning car in 2011 and 12 and appeared to be going backwards year on year whereas Merc where moving forward. Now although Macca seem to have bottomed out the jury is still out, so to speak, about when and even if their resurgence as real championship contenders will take place.
I think even if Lewis fails to take the title this year he, along with nearly everyone else - Alonso included, will consider Merc is still the best place to fight for the title in 15.
However 16 is a whole new ball game and if Honda sees off the Merc and other engines in at least a few races next year all bets will be off as to which driver will try to get into which car for the following year.
Whilst Merc may not be overjoyed at the possible unfreezing of engine development it should also mean they can further develop their power plant as well. Now just maybe they will increase their advantage - what then? ;)