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Title: Goodbye FIF1
Post by: lkjohnson1950 on October 20, 2018, 09:06:48 PM
The team has announced they will change names for 2019.

https://www.racefans.net/2018/10/20/force-india-planning-new-name-for-2019-season/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+f1fanatic+%28RaceFans+-+Independent+Motorsport+Coverage%29 (https://www.racefans.net/2018/10/20/force-india-planning-new-name-for-2019-season/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+f1fanatic+%28RaceFans+-+Independent+Motorsport+Coverage%29)
Title: Re: Goodbye FIF1
Post by: Alianora La Canta on October 20, 2018, 09:13:01 PM
They've been trying to change it for two years. Maybe this time, with new owners, it will actually happen...
Title: Re: Goodbye FIF1
Post by: Jericoke on October 20, 2018, 10:03:23 PM
At this point it would be stranger if they kept the name.

It wouldn't be unprecedented, but how much of a connection does the current team have to India?
Title: Re: Goodbye FIF1
Post by: Irisado on October 27, 2018, 02:12:16 PM
Previous suggestions for a new name were very uninspiring, so if the name change is to take place, I hope that there are some better options on the table this time.
Title: Re: Goodbye FIF1
Post by: Alianora La Canta on October 27, 2018, 08:53:06 PM
At this point it would be stranger if they kept the name.

It wouldn't be unprecedented, but how much of a connection does the current team have to India?

A young driver (Jehan Daruvala)?
Title: Re: Goodbye FIF1
Post by: Calman on November 27, 2018, 09:50:44 PM
I still think they should go with "Force Pink" ... or "The Pink Panthers" .... but that's all water under the bridge eh?  :DD

Best Regards,
Cal :)
Title: Re: Goodbye FIF1
Post by: Alianora La Canta on November 29, 2018, 10:46:24 PM
Depends if BWT stick around. They were, after all, sponsoring Force India with a loan up to this point, and it's not clear the team needs a loan any more...

(This will not stop me from sending them a boxful of Pink Panther wafers to fuel their car build!)
Title: Re: Goodbye FIF1
Post by: Dare on November 30, 2018, 01:19:47 AM
If anything I hope they do away with that hideous
pink livery.
Title: Re: Goodbye FIF1
Post by: Calman on November 30, 2018, 09:36:21 PM
If anything I hope they do away with that hideous
pink livery.

Not a Pink Panther fan Dare?  :confused:

Seriously though, if they added more white and "water blue" ... it may look a lot better with only a hint of pink on the car??

Best Regards,
Cal :)
Title: Re: Goodbye FIF1
Post by: Alianora La Canta on December 01, 2018, 04:52:22 PM
Since BWT was only providing a loan to the team, I expect them to be replaced with a company willing to pay for a more traditional "give the team money" sponsorship deal.

If nothing else, less scope for bizarre court cases centring around not giving money to a sponsor...
Title: Re: Goodbye FIF1
Post by: lkjohnson1950 on December 02, 2018, 02:21:34 AM
I kind of like the pink.  :D
Title: Re: Goodbye FIF1
Post by: Dare on December 02, 2018, 11:31:36 PM
My good memory of Force India is Fisi winning the
pole at Spa and almost wining the race.
Title: Re: Goodbye FIF1
Post by: Jericoke on December 03, 2018, 03:02:52 PM
I kind of like the pink.  :D

The pink did the job of making the car visible.

So much better than a field of reds and blues.
Title: Re: Goodbye FIF1
Post by: Luke on December 03, 2018, 03:13:48 PM
In that regard, I found it baffling that Sauber Alfa Romeo chose to go with a white and red car that looked so similar to the Williams livery that had been in use for a few seasons.  Odd decision, hardly made their car stick out.  Apart from the fact their car was mid pack and the Williams miles behind.
Title: Re: Goodbye FIF1
Post by: Dare on December 03, 2018, 03:50:00 PM
In that regard, I found it baffling that Sauber Alfa Romeo chose to go with a white and red car that looked so similar to the Williams livery that had been in use for a few seasons.  Odd decision, hardly made their car stick out.  Apart from the fact their car was mid pack and the Williams miles behind.


I wish Sauber would go back their 2004 livery,one of the best ever
Title: Re: Goodbye FIF1
Post by: Jericoke on December 03, 2018, 04:34:55 PM
In that regard, I found it baffling that Sauber Alfa Romeo chose to go with a white and red car that looked so similar to the Williams livery that had been in use for a few seasons.  Odd decision, hardly made their car stick out.  Apart from the fact their car was mid pack and the Williams miles behind.

Even Red Bull does a great job of distinguishing RBR from STR, and both cars look great.  For years the STR looked better, but it's become much more plain, still good, but not as exciting.

It must've been hell trying to follow the sport when all the cars were running sponsor free with national colours!
Title: Re: Goodbye FIF1
Post by: John S on December 03, 2018, 04:58:37 PM
It must've been hell trying to follow the sport when all the cars were running sponsor free with national colours!

It really was sheer hell on black and white TV that's all I know.  :D

Title: Re: Goodbye FIF1
Post by: Dare on December 03, 2018, 08:15:17 PM
It must've been hell trying to follow the sport when all the cars were running sponsor free with national colours!

It really was sheer hell on black and white TV that's all I know.  :D



But the good racing made up for it
Title: Re: Goodbye FIF1
Post by: Calman on December 04, 2018, 03:47:24 AM
So .... don't get used to saying "Racing Point" quite yet, as it could change once again, before the first green light in 2019.  I think we should stick with "Force WhaaaaatEVVVVVVERRR!!!" until we hear a final, FINAL decision on the team name for next season.

Best Regards,
Cal :)
Title: Re: Goodbye FIF1
Post by: lkjohnson1950 on December 04, 2018, 03:54:20 AM
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But the good racing made up for it

True. Slip streaming, late braking, balancing grip and power.   :good:
Title: Re: Goodbye FIF1
Post by: John S on December 04, 2018, 06:16:58 PM
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But the good racing made up for it

True. Slip streaming, late braking, balancing grip and power.   :good:

Oh and power sliding.....and missing gears  :-[
..... and failing to finish an awful lot.   :tease:
Title: Re: Goodbye FIF1
Post by: Dare on December 04, 2018, 09:53:05 PM
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But the good racing made up for it

True. Slip streaming, late braking, balancing grip and power.   :good:

Oh and power sliding.....and missing gears  :-[
..... and failing to finish an awful lot.   :tease:


And when a driver could take not the best car and win.

Finishes like the 71 Italian GP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bY_sHKRnaeo
Title: Re: Goodbye FIF1
Post by: Calman on January 11, 2019, 12:34:27 AM
I hope the team don't wait too long to cement the new team name for 2019?

I'm sure you are all up to speed on this, but here is a brief history of their transitions ...

Jordan Grand Prix
Midland F1
Spyker F1
Force India
Sahara Force India
Racing Point F1
(2019 .... ???)

Best Regards,
Cal :)
Title: Re: Goodbye FIF1
Post by: Alianora La Canta on January 19, 2019, 12:41:40 PM
I hope the team don't wait too long to cement the new team name for 2019?

I'm sure you are all up to speed on this, but here is a brief history of their transitions ...

Jordan Grand Prix
Midland F1
Spyker F1
Force India
Sahara Force India
Racing Point F1
(2019 .... ???)

Best Regards,
Cal :)

They also answer to Team Silverstone and Team Awesome... ...but I have been known to call them "Jordan/Midland/Spyker/Force India/Racing Point/whatever they're called this week".
Title: Re: Goodbye FIF1
Post by: John S on January 20, 2019, 04:17:52 PM

They also answer to Team Silverstone and Team Awesome... ...but I have been known to call them "Jordan/Midland/Spyker/Force India/Racing Point/whatever they're called this week".

They also have a sense of humour Alia,  :good:
try calling Red Bull, Stewart GP or Jaguar racing they look daggers at you.  ;)

Title: Re: Goodbye FIF1
Post by: cosworth151 on January 20, 2019, 07:50:47 PM
But there is a huge difference there, John. I really liked Stewart and Jaguar.  :D
Title: Re: Goodbye FIF1
Post by: Calman on January 20, 2019, 08:13:59 PM
But there is a huge difference there, John. I really liked Stewart and Jaguar.  :D

Stewart tartan or Jaguar British Racing Green .... great days!!  :good:

Best Regards,
Cal :)
Title: Re: Goodbye FIF1
Post by: John S on January 21, 2019, 04:39:34 PM
But there is a huge difference there, John. I really liked Stewart and Jaguar.  :D

Well each to his own.  ;) 
I often wondered who followed such well funded but unsuccessful teams.  :tease:

For me Paul(sorry)Jackie Stewart's foray into F1 team ownership failure was only eclipsed by Alain Prost's efforts.
Shame as I really rate both of them as drivers.   :(
Title: Re: Goodbye FIF1
Post by: Jericoke on January 21, 2019, 05:03:00 PM
But there is a huge difference there, John. I really liked Stewart and Jaguar.  :D

Well each to his own.  ;) 
I often wondered who followed such well funded but unsuccessful teams.  :tease:

For me Paul(sorry)Jackie Stewart's foray into F1 team ownership failure was only eclipsed by Alain Prost's efforts.
Shame as I really rate both of them as drivers.   :(

Stewart's biggest 'mistake' was thinking he could run an F1 team without tobacco sponsorship (in a pre tobacco ad ban era).  If you're going to fail at F1, surely that's the best way to do it?
Title: Re: Goodbye FIF1
Post by: Calman on January 22, 2019, 12:31:54 AM
Getting back to Force India/Racing Point ...

https://www.racefans.net/2019/01/21/racing-point-agrees-major-sponsorship-deal-with-sportpesa/

So, are we any closer to learning the name on the new badge above the team's door??

Best Regards,
Cal :)
Title: Re: Goodbye FIF1
Post by: Alianora La Canta on February 03, 2019, 12:27:05 AM
No, still no idea whether we're to call Team Silverstone "Racing Point", "Lance's Squad", "Strollin' Rollin'" or "Ooh Look, We Ran Out Of Characters"...

But there is a huge difference there, John. I really liked Stewart and Jaguar.  :D

Well each to his own.  ;) 
I often wondered who followed such well funded but unsuccessful teams.  :tease:

For me Paul(sorry)Jackie Stewart's foray into F1 team ownership failure was only eclipsed by Alain Prost's efforts.
Shame as I really rate both of them as drivers.   :(

How was Jackie's foray a failure? After two difficult seasons, he'd got his team to midfield respectability and a victory. He then sold to Ford at a large profit in order to protect the team's engine supply, which in turn was only being threatened because Ford's senior officials looked at their success with Stewart and decided owning a team was the perfect way to capitalise. In the end, the Stewarts only left Jaguar because of a spate of (thankfully all successful) bouts with cancer hit the family.
Title: Re: Goodbye FIF1
Post by: Luke on February 03, 2019, 07:51:08 AM
Strollin' Rollin' sounds great.   :DD
Title: Re: Goodbye FIF1
Post by: John S on February 03, 2019, 01:42:09 PM
Strollin' Rollin' sounds great.   :DD

Sounds grrrreat……..FIA will have to disallow it - the shortened form would have to be STR.   :tease:
Title: Re: Goodbye FIF1
Post by: cosworth151 on February 03, 2019, 03:27:18 PM
I agree with Ali. The team was in good shape when Ford took it over & badged it Jaguar. They threw a ton of money at it with a revolving door management (even including Niki Lauda) The last straw happened at a Ford board meeting. A member of the Ford family asked then CEO Jacques Nasser who the highest paid Ford employee was. Nasser replied that it was him. He was then told that it was Eddie Irvine. Both Nasser and Jag F1 were soon gone.
Title: Re: Goodbye FIF1
Post by: Calman on February 06, 2019, 03:47:36 AM
So, after all the gossip and projected plans, it's now confirmed that Racing Point's new name for 2019, will be ... Racing Point.   :confused:

https://www.pitpass.com/63842/Racing-Point-to-remain-Racing-Point

Sounds like the Boss doesn't like it, but is stuck with it for the 2019 campaign ... or longer??

Best Regards,
Cal :)

Title: Re: Goodbye FIF1
Post by: Alianora La Canta on February 08, 2019, 03:42:15 PM
I find this particularly amusing since it's the name of the boss's (Lawrence Stroll's that is) old karting team!
Title: Re: Goodbye FIF1
Post by: John S on February 08, 2019, 06:03:42 PM
I find this particularly amusing since it's the name of the boss's (Lawrence Stroll's that is) old karting team!

Sounds like management found a way to stay on the owners good side then.  :D

Title: Re: Goodbye FIF1
Post by: Calman on February 14, 2019, 05:04:14 AM
So ...

Goodbye FIF1, hello Racing Point, kinda goodbye racing point and hello "SportPesa Racing Point F1 Team"

I think when the opportunity comes along, they should go with "Us F1" .. safer in the long run!  :P

Best Regards,
Cal :)
Title: Re: Goodbye FIF1
Post by: Scott on February 14, 2019, 11:25:20 AM
Finally a Canadian team.   :yahoo: :yahoo:
Title: Re: Goodbye FIF1
Post by: Luke on February 14, 2019, 09:56:44 PM
Finally a Canadian team.   :yahoo: :yahoo:

You mean 'Racing Point UK Ltd'  :P
Title: Re: Goodbye FIF1
Post by: Scott on February 15, 2019, 10:01:48 AM
Finally a Canadian team.   :yahoo: :yahoo:

You mean 'Racing Point UK Ltd'  :P

CDN$ = CDN Team
Title: Re: Goodbye FIF1
Post by: Luke on February 15, 2019, 10:22:29 AM
CDN$ = CDN Team

And I have a bite on the fishing line  :tease:
Title: Re: Goodbye FIF1
Post by: Scott on February 15, 2019, 10:28:55 AM
I was going to make a Brexit joke, but I know the wounds are still open  :tease:
Title: Re: Goodbye FIF1
Post by: Luke on February 15, 2019, 10:32:32 AM
I was going to make a Brexit joke, but I know the wounds are still open  :tease:

My entire nation deserved that joke at my expense  :'(  :'(  I still wake up in disbelief.
Title: Re: Goodbye FIF1
Post by: Alianora La Canta on February 16, 2019, 07:07:55 AM
Taking my cue from Will Buxton, I'm dubbing my favourite team "Sporty Peas Strollin' Rollin'".