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Title: McLaren link up with BAT
Post by: Luke on February 11, 2019, 11:20:24 AM
I guess if it is okay for Ferrari, it is fine for McLaren.  I don't like it, however they dress it up, but McLaren have now entered into a globial partnership with British American Tobacco.

https://www.mclaren.com/formula1/partners/british-american-tobacco/mclaren-racing-announces-global-partnership-british-american-tobacco/ (https://www.mclaren.com/formula1/partners/british-american-tobacco/mclaren-racing-announces-global-partnership-british-american-tobacco/)
Title: Re: McLaren link up with BAT
Post by: Dare on February 11, 2019, 01:15:03 PM
No bucks no Buck Rogers. Hope the money helps
Title: Re: McLaren link up with BAT
Post by: Jericoke on February 11, 2019, 03:04:28 PM
Still pushing nicotine?

Pass.

Hope McLaren ends up in the ditch.
Title: Re: McLaren link up with BAT
Post by: Calman on February 11, 2019, 04:38:29 PM
Zak had nothing to do with it!!  ::)

Best Regards,
Cal :)
Title: Re: McLaren link up with BAT
Post by: Scott on February 11, 2019, 05:58:42 PM
Now that itís legal in Canada, maybe one of the big weed manufacturers will jump on board the new Stroll-mobile.
 8)
Title: Re: McLaren link up with BAT
Post by: Calman on February 11, 2019, 06:58:37 PM
Now that itís legal in Canada, maybe one of the big weed manufacturers will jump on board the new Stroll-mobile.
 8)

How about Cana-Bistro-ll .... see what I did there!  :D

Best Regards,
Cal :)
Title: Re: McLaren link up with BAT
Post by: Alianora La Canta on February 11, 2019, 09:06:20 PM
I wonder how long it will take the EU to jump on this. McLaren's not even trying to hide the fact...
Title: Re: McLaren link up with BAT
Post by: Luke on February 11, 2019, 09:16:08 PM
I wonder how long it will take the EU to jump on this. McLaren's not even trying to hide the fact...

Just long enough for the country to have fallen out of the EU and no longer be tied to their law probably  :fool:  :fool:

Seriously though, I hope quickly.  This whole thing flies in the face of the tobacco advertising ban and I apply this to Ferrari as well. 
Title: Re: McLaren link up with BAT
Post by: Jericoke on February 12, 2019, 03:02:43 PM
Now that itís legal in Canada, maybe one of the big weed manufacturers will jump on board the new Stroll-mobile.
 8)

No can do.  Anyone associated with a cannabis company is barred entry to the USA.  Even if they take the advertising off the car, they wouldn't be allowed to race in the USGP.

So many political things to say here, very hard to keep things on (racing) point!
Title: Re: McLaren link up with BAT
Post by: Scott on February 12, 2019, 03:16:10 PM
I was kinda teasing, but I know you are right.  The American legal weed industry can't even bank their revenue because the banks would lose their license to operate by the Feds even though it is a completely legal business in the 'enlightened' states that allow it.  They have to vault the money and the employees are paid in cash...just like the old days  :fool:

I imagine the next administration will put down the gloves and just allow it across the country.  The funniest thing is that they talk about all the drugs coming across from the southern border, yet it's still illegal in Mexico.  Meanwhile underground railways are being set up across the largest unprotected border in the world - to Canada.  Hilarious.
Title: Re: McLaren link up with BAT
Post by: Irisado on February 17, 2019, 11:43:11 AM
I am not at all happy about Ferrari and McLaren trying to evade the law in this way.  It needs to be stopped.  I thought that Formula 1 had seen the back of tobacco advertising.  For me, it was one of the most positive advances in Formula 1 in the twenty-first century.
Title: Re: McLaren link up with BAT
Post by: John S on February 17, 2019, 01:31:43 PM
I'm not happy with governments that pat themselves on the back for restricting advertising and point of sale on tobacco, but are quite happy to keep taking huge revenues from it in tax.

Oh and bye the way, in Britain, use that money for general taxation whilst whingeing about how much smokers cost the health service.

If it's that bad for all of us make it illegal and only available on private prescription for hopeless addicts.
I was a smoker but gave up for reasons of cost, I'm not against smoking per se but rather have issues with the hypocrisy that surrounds it's regulation and taxes.     
Title: Re: McLaren link up with BAT
Post by: Scott on February 17, 2019, 04:59:44 PM
If cost was what made you give it up, then it seems their strategy worked perfectly to get the cheap old farts (who probably donít pay enough tax anyway  :P :P) off the weed.  I gave it up to move to a healthier lifestyle.

As for the advertising and point of sale restrictions, it has nothing to do with people who already smoke, but to prevent the next generation to be quite so tempted.  It has had a positive impact in Canada, which is about a decade ahead of most European countries. 

The number of youth reporting to have never smoked increased from about 70% to 86% from 2000-2010 and trends suggest it will be well into the 90ís by the end of this decade.  This was accomplished through Restrictive advertising and blind point of sales (every tobacco product hidden from view), education and positive peer pressure (my cousinís son recently said at his school it is truly only the very ďun-coolĒ who smoke). 

Discussions about how governments spend their tax dollars is for another thread, but luxury taxes are as old as tax, and if it means you pay less somewhere else for the same level of government service, where is the problem?