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Author Topic: The problem child returns  (Read 29263 times)

Offline Andy B

The problem child returns
« on: July 22, 2024, 05:10:49 AM »
Maybe he never went away it seems that while everything is going his way he's fine but once it isn't he's not.
I doubt he'll ever change!

https://www.planetf1.com/news/max-verstappen-x-rated-response-to-critics-after-terse-hungarian-grand-prix


Once you have retired every day is a Saturday!

Offline lkjohnson1950

Re: The problem child returns
« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2024, 06:01:54 AM »
Max is childish, a bully, and a crybaby. Whenever anything goes wrong it's always someone else's fault. Anyone ever hear Max say "Sorry, I made a mistake"?
Lonny

Offline Jericoke

Re: The problem child returns
« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2024, 01:26:25 PM »
Max is childish, a bully, and a crybaby. Whenever anything goes wrong it's always someone else's fault. Anyone ever hear Max say "Sorry, I made a mistake"?

"Whatever it takes to win"

Right?

Some people do complain that many F1 drivers, indeed, wordclass athletes, are boring in public.  They're media trained so they won't do anything to hurt sponsors or set a bad example.

It's nice when a driver has a little personality, but I agree, Max's isn't it.  Other champions have been able to be blunt while still appearing gracious in defeat.  Kimi made his contempt brief and to the point.  Lewis Hamilton's public handling of 2021 is a prime example of why he's a great F1 champion.

Offline cosworth151

Re: The problem child returns
« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2024, 04:04:44 PM »
Max was taken out of contention by his own mistake. He's lucky he didn't write off his car (and Hamilton's car, too). He's just trying to deflect the blame.
“You can search the world over for the finer things, but you won't find a match for the American road and the creatures that live on it.”
― Bob Dylan

Offline Dare

Re: The problem child returns
« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2024, 08:47:17 PM »
Max was taken out of contention by his own mistake. He's lucky he didn't write off his car (and Hamilton's car, too). He's just trying to deflect the blame.


Maybe the stewards saw it differently but they said Lewis could
have did more to avoid the collision is why Max received no penalty
Mark Twain once opined, "it's easier to con someone than to convince them they've been conned."

Offline Andy B

Re: The problem child returns
« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2024, 10:02:07 PM »
Max was taken out of contention by his own mistake. He's lucky he didn't write off his car (and Hamilton's car, too). He's just trying to deflect the blame.


Maybe the stewards saw it differently but they said Lewis could
have did more to avoid the collision is why Max received no penalty

I'm puzzled how the Stewards came to that conclusion as LH left room for MV which is the requirement the fact that MV had too much speed and couldn't take the corner was his error.
LH saying it was a racing incident was probably MV's saving grace!
Once you have retired every day is a Saturday!

Offline John S

Re: The problem child returns
« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2024, 10:32:29 AM »
Max was taken out of contention by his own mistake. He's lucky he didn't write off his car (and Hamilton's car, too). He's just trying to deflect the blame.


Maybe the stewards saw it differently but they said Lewis could
have did more to avoid the collision is why Max received no penalty

I'm puzzled how the Stewards came to that conclusion as LH left room for MV which is the requirement the fact that MV had too much speed and couldn't take the corner was his error.
LH saying it was a racing incident was probably MV's saving grace!

I'm deffo on the Stewards side on this, Lewis continued to hold his steering input when it was clear Max's car was right beside him. 
Not sure how Lewis thought he could pull a cut back until Max's car was clear of him, so it was either old age making his inputs slower, or more likely he was trying to ensure that Max had to give more room by physically moving him.  :crazy:
Racing is Life - everything else is just....waiting. (Steve McQueen)

Offline Andy B

Re: The problem child returns
« Reply #7 on: July 27, 2024, 10:31:08 PM »
It was still a case of MV locking up as he had too much speed and LH left him room up the inside and was turning right as its a corner where you turn right.
Its easy for us armchair drivers to analyse these events but it all happening in a couple of seconds and they are old hands at what they do and what they think they can get away with.
I also feel that LH is like a red flag to a bull with MV.
Once you have retired every day is a Saturday!

Offline John S

Re: The problem child returns
« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2024, 10:50:05 AM »
It was still a case of MV locking up as he had too much speed and LH left him room up the inside and was turning right as its a corner where you turn right.
Its easy for us armchair drivers to analyse these events but it all happening in a couple of seconds and they are old hands at what they do and what they think they can get away with.
I also feel that LH is like a red flag to a bull with MV.

Andy you are right of course about Max's lunge causing his big lock up making the real problem, however I stick with my assertion that either Lewis reaction times are slowing with age or he chose to stay turning with a car seriously close beside him.

Of course its easy after all these events to play armchair pundit, in fairness though we were discussing the stewards response which is also done with a hindsight view.

You're on the money that LH is certainly more bullish around MV. ;) 
Racing is Life - everything else is just....waiting. (Steve McQueen)

 


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