Alonso ...BBC Sport

[markb]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8584794.stm

Article from BBC Sport :  Alonso and his new Ferrari boss have suggested we wait for a few races to re-assess impact of new rules.

Would he (Alonso) have said that if he didn't come first I wonder?....YOU decide!

[Jericoke]

Fundamentally... he's right.

No set of rules is going to make every single race super exciting.  The nature of motorsport is that if you qualify a car first, it's going to be in front, and faster than anyone else.  If the cars are designed right, there just isn't going to be much passing.  Rule changes mean learning and adapting. 

The teams have had one go at the new rules, and now it's time for them to try something else.  One of two things will happen:  they will work, and beat Ferrari, or they won't, and something interesting will happen in places 3 through 8. 

[markb]

If he's fundamentaly right, then why is everyone, including myself and quite a few members of this Forum, debating what could be done to make races more exciting? 

Granted that we have only witnessed one race, but the prospect of future races changing for the better, apart from the smaller circuits, look pretty low!....unless of course, one is happy to return to the days when one or perhaps two team dominate the season, which I for one, is against.  All I wish for is good, fair and competitive racing.

[Jericoke]

If he's fundamentaly right, then why is everyone, including myself and quite a few members of this Forum, debating what could be done to make races more exciting? 

Granted that we have only witnessed one race, but the prospect of future races changing for the better, apart from the smaller circuits, look pretty low!....unless of course, one is happy to return to the days when one or perhaps two team dominate the season, which I for one, is against.  All I wish for is good, fair and competitive racing.

If you can name a season that didn't have one dull race, you're a greater fan than I am.  Further, most F1 seasons are dominated by a single team, often a single driver.  The only reason why they weren't complete runaways in the past was due to reliability, which has been mostly solved.  (Indeed, wait for later this season when teams are using engines and gearboxes that have prayer as lubricant.)

While I agree that fewer pitstops takes the strategy out of the sport, up until last season people would complain that all the passing takes place in the pits, rather than the track.  Well, now the passing isn't going to take place in the pits, wish granted.

I also agree something needs to be done to make the cars passable on track.  NASCAR and IRL have both found aerodynamic solutions to the problem.  Hopefully FIA can find something too. 

Until then, why not let the best minds in motorsport try to solve the current rules?

(For the record, I believe the time to panic is the start of the European Season)

[markb]

I wasn't saying that there was never a season without a dull race/s, and I am not an expert by any means, but merely debating what I am reading in the press. 

We all ( I presume) want entertaining races, and not a return to the era when a certain Mr.Schumacher dominated the sport,,,yawn yawn yawn.

You concluded by saying that we should let the best minds in motorsport try to solve the current rules........GRANTED, if only the FIA would just let that happen, there will be a few happier people around in F1!

[cosworth151]

Melbourne is a much better track than Bahrain, so we'll see what happens there. Frankly, I don't hold out much hope for the current rules. In one action, the FIA removed one of the more interesting variables (fuel strategies) while making the cars less responsive. A loose-loose proposition.

Until then, why not let the best minds in motorsport try to solve the current rules?

I thought that we ARE the best minds in motorsport! 

[markb]

Well, one wonders who the minds are sometimes!

[Chris Borg]

Melbourne is a much better track than Bahrain, so we'll see what happens there. Frankly, I don't hold out much hope for the current rules. In one action, the FIA removed one of the more interesting variables (fuel strategies) while making the cars less responsive. A loose-loose proposition.

Until then, why not let the best minds in motorsport try to solve the current rules?

I thought that we ARE the best minds in motorsport! 

We are the best minds in Motor Sports, as we happen to be the Fans.

The Teams are at fault also, for agreeing to the new regulations. It is now down to the big Bosses at the FIA to sort this out. We can argue till kingdom come, as us the
fans can only hope and pray that this is sorted out ASAP.

[John S]

Melbourne is a much better track than Bahrain, so we'll see what happens there. Frankly, I don't hold out much hope for the current rules. In one action, the FIA removed one of the more interesting variables (fuel strategies) while making the cars less responsive. A loose-loose proposition.

Until then, why not let the best minds in motorsport try to solve the current rules?

I thought that we ARE the best minds in motorsport! 

We are the best minds in Motor Sports, as we happen to be the Fans.

The Teams are at fault also, for agreeing to the new regulations. It is now down to the big Bosses at the FIA to sort this out. We can argue till kingdom come, as us the
fans can only hope and pray that this is sorted out ASAP.

How can the teams be at fault Chris, there is no major sport on the planet where the individual teams or competitors make the regulations. The teams are competing with each other and as such can't usually even agree at what time a race should start let alone anything else.

The commercial rights holder in reality is the only true fans champion since without us they make no money. Bernie knows there is a problem and is desperately hoping things will get better, if not expect a fire to be lit by him under Todt's ass before the European races.

[Chris Borg]

Melbourne is a much better track than Bahrain, so we'll see what happens there. Frankly, I don't hold out much hope for the current rules. In one action, the FIA removed one of the more interesting variables (fuel strategies) while making the cars less responsive. A loose-loose proposition.

Until then, why not let the best minds in motorsport try to solve the current rules?

I thought that we ARE the best minds in motorsport! 

We are the best minds in Motor Sports, as we happen to be the Fans.

The Teams are at fault also, for agreeing to the new regulations. It is now down to the big Bosses at the FIA to sort this out. We can argue till kingdom come, as us the
fans can only hope and pray that this is sorted out ASAP.

How can the teams be at fault Chris, there is no major sport on the planet where the individual teams or competitors make the regulations. The teams are competing with each other and as such can't usually even agree at what time a race should start let alone anything else.

The commercial rights holder in reality is the only true fans champion since without us they make no money. Bernie knows there is a problem and is desperately hoping things will get better, if not expect a fire to be lit by him under Todt's ass before the European races.

All I was trying to point out was that all teams were consulted on the new rules and regulations, and they all agreed.

[John S]

All I was trying to point out was that all teams were consulted on the new rules and regulations, and they all agreed.

I think you'll find they were asked to sign up to the new rules with their entry, there's a big difference.

They got changes to some of the proposed rules about budgets but only after threatening armagedden. 

[Chris Borg]

All I was trying to point out was that all teams were consulted on the new rules and regulations, and they all agreed.

I think you'll find they were asked to sign up to the new rules with their entry, there's a big difference.

They got changes to some of the proposed rules about budgets but only after threatening armagedden. 

When they signed they knew exactly what they were going in for. As for the threatening bit that you mention in your post, I am sure that they must have been advised Legally.