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Author Topic: Pirelli re-signed through 2019  (Read 2761 times)

Offline Scott

Pirelli re-signed through 2019
« on: October 19, 2015, 12:22:19 PM »
So much for a tire war or the return of Michelin. 

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/formula1/34499746


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Offline Jericoke

Re: Pirelli re-signed through 2019
« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2015, 03:09:45 PM »
So much for a tire war or the return of Michelin. 

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/formula1/34499746

I haven't had a problem with Pirelli.  They've been very good about putting the interests of the sport ahead of their own interests.  It would be simple for them to provide a 100% reliable tire, but they were asked not to.  They took on the risk of teams misusing a tire designed to fail, and they've stood by their work.

I would like to see the tire rules tweaked somewhat, but over all, I doubt anyone would do a better job than Pirelli (I'm sure that Michelin or Bridgestone would do just as well as Pirelli though.)

I WOULD prefer a tire war, but naturally they would homologate the tires, and if one supplier got it wrong, it would be a rough season

Offline F1fanaticBD

Re: Pirelli re-signed through 2019
« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2015, 05:30:17 PM »
I think there is no question about the willingness of Pirelli, they did what they have been told to do, and despite their lack of testing in actual F1 cars they have pulled some exceptional work. We were looking forward to a same level of commitment from another manufacturer who will go head to head with Pirelli. Unfortunately it was never going to happen.

I also believed Michelin started with a wrong strategy of criticizing the current regulation, obviously if you are going to be the new supplier with a bad memory, the first thing I would expect is to be a willing provider, instead of being the pushy one with issues with current regulation.
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Offline Alianora La Canta

Re: Pirelli re-signed through 2019
« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2015, 06:04:49 PM »
I have quite serious problems with Pirelli, namely their refusal to push back proactively against FIA decisions that they themselves seem to think are bad (instead of waiting for the regulations' inevitable failure), their inability to make a tyre that is consistently safe when used reasonably (as recently as Russia, there were tyres suddenly going to the canvas after 8 laps in practise a la Michelin at Indy 2005 - luckily for them, they didn't recur in qualifying or the race) and their increasingly dodgy excuses when things go wrong. None of these are behaviours I expect from a tyre manufacturer, and none of these can be blamed on other parties.

The lack of testing is largely Pirelli's fault, for breaching the test regulations with Mercedes in 2013 and helping them get the domination they currently have. The teams knew then exactly how far they couldn't trust their tyre supplier, and both sides have paid for it ever since.

I'm not sure Michelin's technical changes would necessarily have been better for F1, but they displayed a far better attitude to racing, which would have been refreshing.

Really, though, this was decided by Pirelli willing to pay Bernie more for advertising hoardings than Michelin - which contravenes the Nice Agreement, which requires the FIA to be the sole arbitrator of such decisions. The moment the FIA said that the choice between Pirelli and Michelin was "subject to Bernie" two months ago, I knew this would happen. The EU will be furious, and that's a heavy price for F1 (literally and figuratively) to pay for Pirelli liking Bernie's advertising spots.
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Offline cosworth151

Re: Pirelli re-signed through 2019
« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2015, 12:44:08 PM »
...or maybe they haven't. It seems Bernie forgot to mention any of this to the FIA. You know, the people who actually make the decision.

It looks looks like Michelin is insisting on low profile tires as a condition for their return.

http://autoweek.com/article/formula-one/analysis-f1-pirelli-agree-extend-tire-deal-or-do-they
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Offline lkjohnson1950

Re: Pirelli re-signed through 2019
« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2015, 02:53:45 PM »
And that's why Pirelli will get the deal.
Lonny

 


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