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Author Topic: F1 mock up what 2022 car will look like with show car  (Read 511 times)

Offline John S

F1 mock up what 2022 car will look like with show car
« on: June 22, 2021, 04:42:13 PM »
First images released of how cars will basically look next season. Show car may be revealed at Silverstone for the British GP.

For me the front wing looks like it would be happier on a Dragon boat rather than a racing car.  :D






« Last Edit: June 25, 2021, 05:07:03 PM by John S »


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Offline John S

Re: F1 mock up what 2022 car will look like with show car
« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2021, 05:08:07 PM »
Now they've issued more images of what 2022 cars will look like.

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Offline jimclark

Re: F1 mock up what 2022 car will look like with show car
« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2021, 08:11:26 PM »
Oh lord I hope not......   :swoon:

That looks as silly as the dumb arse Indy cars of today......  ::)
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Online lkjohnson1950

Re: F1 mock up what 2022 car will look like with show car
« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2021, 02:21:39 AM »
I realize aero is quite different now than back in the day, but it doesn't look like a ground effects car to me.
Lonny

Offline jimclark

Re: F1 mock up what 2022 car will look like with show car
« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2021, 02:36:03 AM »
Nuttin' to do with GE or not......

'Just looks plain arse silly.
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Offline John S

Re: F1 mock up what 2022 car will look like with show car
« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2021, 12:54:26 PM »
I realize aero is quite different now than back in the day, but it doesn't look like a ground effects car to me.

Think they may be allowing/re-introducing venturi tunnels under the cars to achieve some measure of ground effect, Lonny.

Presently the underfloor of an F1 car has to be completely flat with that flipping great plank stuck to it as well. Not sure if plank staying in some way on 2022 spec cars though.  :DntKnw: Probably is as it's more about regulating ride height than stopping aero. 
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Online lkjohnson1950

Re: F1 mock up what 2022 car will look like with show car
« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2021, 01:03:24 PM »
Yes the new cars are supposed to use ground effect, I don't understand the retention of the "Coke bottle" shape. Unless it's somehow required, using it would seem to really limit how much ground effect you could achieve.
Lonny

Offline cosworth151

Re: F1 mock up what 2022 car will look like with show car
« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2021, 01:35:20 PM »
Looking at the overhead view, the floorpan ahead of the rear axles is fairly rectangular & possibly part of some ground effects system underneath. There are also some strakes sticking out from under the front of the floorpan that could be ground effects related. The coke bottle shape of the upper body could be to help airflow around it.

The car looks like it's going to be as huge as the current cars. (See pictures below) The current cars have a wheelbase longer than a Ford Explorer Police Interceptor full size SUV! The new low sidewall wheel-tire package is going to take some getting use to.

The oddball color scheme doesn't help the picture, either. At least it's better then IndyCar or, even worse, Formula E.  :sick:
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Offline John S

Re: F1 mock up what 2022 car will look like with show car
« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2021, 03:56:13 PM »
I realize aero is quite different now than back in the day, but it doesn't look like a ground effects car to me.

Lonny, here is some paras, ripped from the F1 website today, explaining how ground effects will work on 2022 cars. Seems venturi tunnels is the correct answer.

 5. An aero feature from the 70s is back! (sort of)
F1’s Motorsports team began work on the 2022 car back in 2017 – and it soon became apparent that the key change required to ensure closer racing would be placing the aerodynamic emphasis on ground effect to create downforce.

Ground effect came to prominence in F1 in the late 1970s, with cars effectively designed in the shape of upside-down airplane wings, creating huge amounts of downforce as they were pushed into the track.

Full ground effect cars were subsequently outlawed at the end of 1982 – and the 2022 car is certainly not a return to that era (there are no side skirts for a start!). But the 2022 car does feature fully shaped underfloor tunnels, rather than the stepped floor used currently, which will allow teams to generate large amounts of efficient downforce through ground effect (the current floors also exploit ground effect, but not to the same extent).

The reason for the change is the benign quality of downforce generated in ground effect. Current cars’ barge boards and other bits of aerodynamic furniture are designed to send vortices under the floor to increase downforce. But when those vortices stop working – due, for example, to the influence of closely following another car – the performance drop-off is huge.

With the 2022 car, however, the underfloor downforce is better preserved within the tunnels, without the reliance on arrays of wake-sensitive, vortex-generating geometries – ergo better following, ergo closer racing!
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Online lkjohnson1950

Re: F1 mock up what 2022 car will look like with show car
« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2021, 06:57:04 PM »
Thanks John. If the person who wrote this thinks G/E cars of the past were upside down wings, he doesn't understand them. The Lotus 78 used wing shaped pods, none of the later cars did. They were venturi cars. I know G/E can be generated with a number of different shapes but the more volume in the chamber the more downforce. I just wonder if the FIA has mandated a volume restriction that affects the shape.
Lonny

Offline Andy B

Re: F1 mock up what 2022 car will look like with show car
« Reply #10 on: July 15, 2021, 11:26:02 PM »
The 2022 cars when they form on the grid for race 1 will not resemble the cars being shown today the clever people F1 pays big bucks to will ensure that or at least I hope they do!
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