collapse

* Welcome

Welcome to GPWizard F1 Forum!

GPWizard is the friendliest F1 forum you'll find anywhere. You have a host of new like-minded friends waiting to welcome you.

So what are you waiting for? Becoming a member is easy and free! Take a couple seconds out of your day and register now. We guarantee, you wont be sorry you did.

Click Here to become a full Member for Free

* User Info

 
 
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?

* Newsletter

GPWizard F1 Forum Newsletter Email address:
Weekly
Fortnightly
Monthly

* Grid Game Deadlines

Qualifying

Race

* Shoutbox

Refresh History
  • Wizzo: :good:
    March 05, 2024, 11:44:46 PM
  • Dare: my chat button is onthe bottom rightWiz
    March 03, 2024, 11:58:24 PM
  • Wizzo: Yes you should see the chat room button at the bottom left of your screen
    March 02, 2024, 11:39:55 PM
  • Open Wheel: Is there a Chat room button or something to access “Race day conversation”
    March 02, 2024, 02:46:02 PM
  • Wizzo: The 2024 Grid Game is here!  :yahoo:
    January 30, 2024, 01:42:23 PM
  • Wizzo: Hey everybody - the shout box is back!  :D
    August 21, 2023, 12:18:19 PM

* Who's Online

  • Dot Guests: 554
  • Dot Hidden: 0
  • Dot Users: 1
  • Dot Users Online:

* Top Posters

cosworth151 cosworth151
16159 Posts
Scott Scott
14057 Posts
Dare Dare
12990 Posts
John S John S
11276 Posts
Ian Ian
9729 Posts

Author Topic: McLaren fits interim diffuser for China  (Read 2575 times)

Offline John S

  • F1 Legend
  • ****
  • Date Registered: Jan 2007
  • Location: Lincolnshire, UK
  • Posts: 11276
  • 11550 credits
  • View Inventory
  • Send Money To John S
  • Max for 3rd title! - to see more Toto apoplexy.
McLaren fits interim diffuser for China
« on: April 17, 2009, 01:28:23 PM »

 This report gives more info on McLaren efforts in the diffuser area.

      http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/74511






Racing is Life - everything else is just....waiting. (Steve McQueen)

Online Jericoke

Re: McLaren fits interim diffuser for China
« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2009, 02:41:23 PM »
I'm surprised that only McLaren is ready with a replacement.

Or maybe they're the only ones to announce it?

Offline John S

  • F1 Legend
  • ****
  • Date Registered: Jan 2007
  • Location: Lincolnshire, UK
  • Posts: 11276
  • 11550 credits
  • View Inventory
  • Send Money To John S
  • Max for 3rd title! - to see more Toto apoplexy.
Re: McLaren fits interim diffuser for China
« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2009, 02:46:22 PM »
I think Renault also may have a modification they are trying in China. These are interim fixes only with the full works to come later.

Just goes to show how complex it is to change that area of the car once you have decided on the original design.
Racing is Life - everything else is just....waiting. (Steve McQueen)

Online Jericoke

Re: McLaren fits interim diffuser for China
« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2009, 04:25:56 PM »
I'm sure the timing has a lot to do with it.  Teams need time to ensure the new bits they put on aren't going to fall off after 20 laps. 

My guess is most teams are ready to go, but just didn't have time to ship ready cars to China.

Offline John S

  • F1 Legend
  • ****
  • Date Registered: Jan 2007
  • Location: Lincolnshire, UK
  • Posts: 11276
  • 11550 credits
  • View Inventory
  • Send Money To John S
  • Max for 3rd title! - to see more Toto apoplexy.
Re: McLaren fits interim diffuser for China
« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2009, 07:03:15 PM »
I'm sure the timing has a lot to do with it.  Teams need time to ensure the new bits they put on aren't going to fall off after 20 laps. 

My guess is most teams are ready to go, but just didn't have time to ship ready cars to China.

There are some major technical problems to be overcome by teams who want to convert to the true double deck diffuser. The following was taken from a article by Mike Gascoyne on the BBC website and it explains some of the difficulties faced.

HOW QUICKLY CAN THE OTHER TEAMS CATCH UP?

The problem teams have in reacting quickly is that they will not only have to change their diffuser, they may also have to redesign their gearbox and rear crash structure.

A new crash structure means new crash tests, which can be quite a long process. For some teams, this could mean one or two months instead of one or two weeks.

Toyota and Williams launched their cars in January and that was the first chance for their rivals to get a good look at the diffuser design.

 If they decided to react then, they will already be quite a long way down the development road.

For example, Renault may have been arguing in court about the diffuser on Tuesday but they have produced their own upgrade for use in China this weekend.

If teams were predicting the FIA would ban the design, then it could easily be up to two months before they have the new parts on their car.

Ferrari, in particular, are struggling on this front and do not expect to implement any changes until the Turkish Grand Prix on 7 June.

Red Bull will also struggle because of their unique gearbox and pull-rod suspension design. They will need a major update and designer Adrian Newey is working around the clock to make the changes.

I believe most teams will react quickly but will initially only gain two or three tenths of a second instead of the full half a second - but that extra time is still worth having.

Racing is Life - everything else is just....waiting. (Steve McQueen)

Online Jericoke

Re: McLaren fits interim diffuser for China
« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2009, 07:33:14 PM »
Thanks John!

I've been watching f1 for 13 years, and so much to learn!

Offline lkjohnson1950

Re: McLaren fits interim diffuser for China
« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2009, 07:36:12 PM »
The new bit may not be working the way they hoped. In Practice 2 Heikki was quicker with the old style diffuser than Lewis and the new one. I bet they are regretting the in season ban on testing.

Lonny
Lonny

 


SimplePortal 2.3.6 © 2008-2014, SimplePortal
Menu Editor Pro 1.0 | Copyright 2013, Matthew Kerle