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Title: Can Raikkonen win the title?
Post by: Mike_Grimsby on July 05, 2007, 09:30:10 PM
The man himself seems to think so. (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/60511)
Title: Re: Can Raikkonen win the title?
Post by: The Stig on July 05, 2007, 09:34:42 PM
No.... Mike
Title: Re: Can Raikkonen win the title?
Post by: Mike_Grimsby on July 05, 2007, 09:39:16 PM
As in, no he can't? Or bad topic?
Title: Re: Can Raikkonen win the title?
Post by: Steven Roy on July 05, 2007, 09:41:28 PM
I don't think he will win it but it is too early to say he definitely won't.  People have turned round bigger deficits in shorter times.
Title: Re: Can Raikkonen win the title?
Post by: Ian on July 05, 2007, 09:42:03 PM
Hope not Mike.
Title: Re: Can Raikkonen win the title?
Post by: Mike_Grimsby on July 05, 2007, 09:47:19 PM
Well, prior to Magny Cours, I'd have laughed at such a suggestion. But bear in mind the McLaren performance that helped their drivers to pull away in the DWC battle. At France the new and improved Ferrari seemed to be back on the pace once more. And with nine races to go??

I'm with Steven Roy, whilst I consider it unlikely, its too early to dismiss the claims of the Finn outright.
Title: Re: Can Raikkonen win the title?
Post by: johnbull on July 05, 2007, 09:51:57 PM
I think we will have a clearer picture after Silverstone.

Mc Laren's strategy in France was appauling. Ron D himself said that Macca flattered Ferrari in France.

If Ferrari are really as good as that then they will repeat the performance at Silverstone. Then Macca should start worrying, but not before.
Title: Re: Can Raikkonen win the title?
Post by: Dare on July 06, 2007, 12:18:12 AM
Remember last year,everyone thought Michael was out
of it.If he had'nt had that engine failure in Japan and
cut tire in Brasil,who knows

And don't forget his stunt in Monaco

So,Kimi still has a chance in my opinion
Title: Re: Can Raikkonen win the title?
Post by: Chameleon on July 06, 2007, 03:23:46 AM
Of course Raikkonen can still win.  Heck, if it comes to it, so could Heidfeld.

Mathematically...

 >:D
Title: Re: Can Raikkonen win the title?
Post by: johnbull on July 06, 2007, 08:39:00 AM

And don't forget his stunt in Monaco


How can we? :yahoo:

(http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/1259/ferraricarpark2uo3.jpg)
Title: Re: Can Raikkonen win the title?
Post by: raindancer on July 06, 2007, 08:43:12 AM
He is fast and in a good car.
Title: Re: Can Raikkonen win the title?
Post by: romephius on July 07, 2007, 08:16:17 AM
Kimi is immensly talented and supremely quick......we all know this, what he needs is to keep his coolness and just drive....He is one of only a few on the grid that can make a great result from a car that is not quite there....only if he stays cool....everyone calls him the iceman, but I don't think it's quite true, he is rather passionate and gets caught up with his emotions.....as can be told by the mistakes he makes by pushing too hard. 

If the stars align, Kimi keeps his head, Ferrari keep delivering a good car and the Mclarens have a little bit of Red Bull luck then yes Kimi is really in the hunt, miss just one of those elements and I think it will be a Mclaren Title (both WCD & WCC)

Thanks for reading my ramble guys....

Rom
Title: Re: Can Raikkonen win the title?
Post by: johnbull on July 07, 2007, 11:14:11 AM
Looking at Kimi the last couple of weekends, whatever it is that Stepney is reputed to have put in his tank perhaps Jean Todt ought to put a bit more in both Ferraris.

Nando is there but Kimi is overshadowing Massa as we have all been expecting him to do all season.

Lewis seems to be having difficulty keeping the pace. He has been improving in all sectors but nowhere near enough. Hope he finds it.

Best of the rest Rosberg, ahead of the BMWs.

I don't know what Cora gave Ralf for breakfast this morning !

Liuzzi very encouraging. Speed was up there most of the session, and Davidson is fastest of the Hondas.
Title: Re: Can Raikkonen win the title?
Post by: romephius on July 07, 2007, 11:22:48 AM
The key to Ralf's dramatic increase in speed is simply due to a weight issue...... she 15 million pounds from your salary (yes I know it hasn't happened yet) and all of a sudden you are light enough to race......

Rom
Title: Re: Can Raikkonen win the title?
Post by: Steven Roy on July 07, 2007, 01:28:24 PM

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Best of the rest Rosberg, ahead of the BMWs.

It looks like a Murray Walker moment. 
Title: Re: Can Raikkonen win the title?
Post by: johnbull on July 07, 2007, 03:25:35 PM

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Best of the rest Rosberg, ahead of the BMWs.

It looks like a Murray Walker moment. 

Is that supposed to be a compliment? ;)
Title: Re: Can Raikkonen win the title?
Post by: Chameleon on July 07, 2007, 04:33:43 PM

Liuzzi very encouraging. Speed was up there most of the session, and Davidson is fastest of the Hondas.

Hey, Speed qualified higher than Liuzzi!  And he has been quicker all weekend.  If the Italian was encouraging, what does that make Scott?  :D

Sometimes I swear that people have a blind spot when it comes to Speed...
Title: Re: Can Raikkonen win the title?
Post by: Chameleon on July 07, 2007, 04:36:47 PM

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Best of the rest Rosberg, ahead of the BMWs.

It looks like a Murray Walker moment. 

Is that supposed to be a compliment? ;)

I think Steven's comment is referring to the fact that Rosberg failed to get beyond Q3, let alone beat the BMWs...  ;)
Title: Re: Can Raikkonen win the title?
Post by: raindancer on July 08, 2007, 05:49:57 PM
He is getting there and Massa is back to his stupid mistakes. This time he stalled his car.
Title: Re: Can Raikkonen win the title?
Post by: romephius on July 08, 2007, 10:23:32 PM
C'mon now, 1 mistake in several races, hardly makes for him being accused of making stupid mistakes.  It was a mistake plain and simple, if stalling on the grid is stupid then what do you call trying to drive away from your pit before your team has finished with you.....I am not attacking anyone here, I just think that we need to accept that drivers will make mistakes from time to time....and not instantly accuse a driver of being stupid, these guys, while experts, are only human after all.

Just something to consider guys.

Rom
Title: Re: Can Raikkonen win the title?
Post by: Ian on July 08, 2007, 11:05:51 PM
He did'nt stall anyway, his engine cut out, listen to pit radio
Title: Re: Can Raikkonen win the title?
Post by: romephius on July 08, 2007, 11:09:54 PM
Thanks for correcting that one Ian, plus I only just got to the news articles on the race...I just saw the article with Jean Todt saying as much too....I didn't catch that particular transmission on the telecast...

Once again Ian, thanks mate

Rom :good:
Title: Re: Can Raikkonen win the title?
Post by: Ian on July 08, 2007, 11:54:07 PM
No prob's Rom, was'nt having a pop at you anyway, no chance of that my friend.
Title: Re: Can Raikkonen win the title?
Post by: romephius on July 09, 2007, 12:55:02 AM
Yeah I know.....I just prefer things to be as perfect as possible...

Title: Re: Can Raikkonen win the title?
Post by: raindancer on July 09, 2007, 07:20:18 AM
Hey ! I meant no disrespect. I heard the pit radio and that the Engine cut out and also that Ferrari were worried about it cause it could recur in a pit stop scenario. But that didn't occur and if there was an engine cut out, I think Massa would have gone to town about how he could have won like in France. Even than Massa would have probably finished ahead of Kubica that is all according to me.
I know drivers make mistakes, its just that "don't make yourself sound invincible"
Title: Re: Can Raikkonen win the title?
Post by: romephius on July 09, 2007, 08:44:33 AM
It's all good Raindancer, there is no animosity here.....I can sometimes come across a little offended.  I personally (and I think some of you guys do too) don't like generalities, or getting caught up in the hysteria surrounding certain things...I look at things on an individual basis and make up my mind from there...things like that stepney thing has gone overboard and people are lining up like little lemmings and making speculations without facts....and in this case you see that the commentators were immediately critical of Massa before they had the information...

So anyways to sum up my ramble...it's all good mate, you have a valid opinion....Keep them coming...and thanks for joining us in the chat during the race

Rom
Title: Re: Can Raikkonen win the title?
Post by: Dare on July 13, 2007, 12:51:29 PM
with a little help from Bernie and the FIA Kimi
is now the favorite to win the title,especially if
points are deducted

Title: Re: Can Raikkonen win the title?
Post by: johnbull on July 13, 2007, 04:53:20 PM
I wonder when Ferrari will finally win a championship on their own merits.
Title: Re: Can Raikkonen win the title?
Post by: raindancer on July 19, 2007, 08:25:12 AM
They were OK for this one before Stephnygate happened ?
Title: Re: Can Raikkonen win the title?
Post by: f1box on July 19, 2007, 09:10:44 AM
Barring any McLaren penalty, imposed by the FIA, I feel that the Championship this year is still beyond either of the Ferrari drivers.

The last two races have been at circuits where this years Ferrari has worked particularly well in comparison to the McLaren. Nurburgring may see the cars a litle more evenly matched.

Autosport did a comparison, a couple of weeks ago, looking at circuit characteristics and whether Ferrari or McLaren would have a car advantage at each race. From hereon it looks to be spread evenly over the remaining races. Any giant leap forward from either in terms of car development excepted.

David
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