Charlie seeks penalty points system for F1 drivers

[John S]

Points add for race ban. About time the sport had consistant rule.        

One fly in the ointment is getting the teams to agree the new system.    

I can also see the likes of Marko/Vettel, thru RBR, trying to get struggling backmarkers like Kathakayan punished for just driving an HRT round the track, as a price for accepting the system.  
  
F1 drivers could be put on a points system next season that sees drivers docked points for offences with a one-race ban the end result.

FIA technical delegate Charlie Whiting is keen to see a system put into place that penalises drivers who commit repeat offences.
 
Each offence would be allocated a number of points with the more severe costing the driver more. And once a certain number of demerits had been reached, the driver would be hit with an automatic one-race ban.
 
"We would like to see a system, and indeed we could discuss it with the teams next Wednesday in Brazil, similar to the sort of thing you have with your road licence where you will accumulate points on your Super Licence," Whiting told Autosport.
 
"If you get to 12 points, or whatever it is, you will have a race [ban]. That's the sort of thing we will discuss."
 
He added: "You will accrue points for all sorts of penalties, whereas at the moment we have only got three reprimands and two of those have to be for driving infringements.
 
"At the moment, if you had a reprimand for being late for a press conference and a reprimand for being late for a drivers parade, that wouldn't lead to a 10-place grid penalty.
 
"It has got to be for driving infringements. If we looked at the Super Licence approach where you get a point for this, two for that, it would all count."
 
Whiting, though, admits he first needs the teams to agree before such a system could be introduced and he doesn't expect that will come easily.
 
"That's something that we would like to see but it's probably not simple, nothing in F1 is really.
 
"It's something we are going to try to discuss with the teams."

Planetf1,com, Fri 16th Nov.

[Ian]

Going by that Lewis would have got 3 points for overtaking Seb at Austin. 

[cosworth151]

Sounds like a good idea, but the teams will never let it happen.

[Jericoke]

It still doesn't clear up the capricious nature of the marshalling.  Different drivers get away with different things now, I don't see how the points would change that.

[F1fanaticBD]

The system is good, I mean by the looks of the set of rules..

But wonder if it will ever be implemented..

[Ian]

It's been said on here before and it's correct, have the same marshals throughout the season, we might get some continuity in rulings and penalties then.

[Ian]

Actually, I think this is a good idea, they could start with penalty points for drivers using the huge run-off areas as a means of overstepping the speed of a corner, three run-offs for that purpose and you've got penalty points(unless it's to avoid a definite accident.)

[Irisado]

There seems to be some confusion between marshals and stewards here.  The former wave the flags out on track, and clear retired cars away .

It's a good idea in theory, but I worry about the application.  As John referred to in his post, I'm sure that front running teams would use it to try to put even more pressure on back markers, who, let's not forget barely hold up the race leader these days compared to the 1990s and 1980s.

I also don't think that you will ever get the teams to agree, as there is a consistency issue regarding the positions taken by the stewards from one race to the next, and owing to the international nature of Formula 1, it seems unlikely that they would be able to have the same stewards on duty for every single race meeting.

[Ian]

Whoops, I meant stewards not marshals. 

[lkjohnson1950]

I would certainly not agree to this unless they picked a board of professional stewards to judge every race.

[Alianora La Canta]

3 reprimands is supposed to lead to a 10-place grid penalty this year. It should have happened twice (Maldonado and Pérez) but hasn't.

If the FIA can't implement that simple a system, then an endorsement system will be way too complex for them, no matter whether the teams agree or not.

[Scott]

Take it out of the stewards hands...use replays and views from in car cameras (mandatory view of drivers hands), and only use a steward for interpretation of something not clear.  Do things like drop 4 tires off the track and an automatic point.  Avoidable collision, 3 points.  But it would need to be transparent - have someone describe with onscreen graphics what the penalty was for.

[John S]

  Do things like drop 4 tires off the track and an automatic point.  Avoidable collision, 3 points.  But it would need to be transparent - have someone describe with onscreen graphics what the penalty was for.

All done whilst running the race under a safety car each time so we don't miss any of the action, eh Scott.    

  

[F1fanaticBD]

  Do things like drop 4 tires off the track and an automatic point.  Avoidable collision, 3 points.  But it would need to be transparent - have someone describe with onscreen graphics what the penalty was for.

All done whilst running the race under a safety car each time so we don't miss any of the action, eh Scott.    

  

   

[Scott]

  Do things like drop 4 tires off the track and an automatic point.  Avoidable collision, 3 points.  But it would need to be transparent - have someone describe with onscreen graphics what the penalty was for.

All done whilst running the race under a safety car each time so we don't miss any of the action, eh Scott.    

No, I don't mean in real time.  Come on, it takes stewards sometimes a whole race to figure out what happened at the first corner.  All I mean is maybe as a post race bit, they could explain the penalties - we are talking about a point system in this thread, aren't we?  Not Stop-and-goes.