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General F1 Discussion / Re: cost of Perez's shunt
« Last post by lkjohnson1950 on Today at 07:31:11 PM »Just had a thought, Max has been really unhappy with his car, so do they build the new one for him and give Perez his old one?
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General F1 Discussion / Re: cost of Perez's shunt
« Last post by lkjohnson1950 on Today at 07:29:18 PM »Don't know if they still do it, but teams used to build Monaco only front suspension parts because the hairpin is so tight they needed more lock than at any other track.
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General F1 Discussion / Re: cost of Perez's shunt
« Last post by Jericoke on Today at 07:07:08 PM »It's certainly tough to put a dollar value on these things, as you're paying for manpower more so than materials. The cars need to be broken down and rebuilt between races anyway. Who knows how many Monaco parts were planned to be on the Canada version of the RBR? How many reserve parts are there that need to be replenished?
I do think there might be a way to create non cap fund for repairing cars. Like all teams, or FOM or FIA pays into it and that's how teams pay for repairs (for crashes that were officially 'not their fault'). Any left over funds at the end of the season go into FIA's charitable endeavors. It allows teams to focus on development, and make sure they're paying their staff as much as they can, rather than holding on to a reserve that presumably goes back to whoever owns the team when not spent.
I do think there might be a way to create non cap fund for repairing cars. Like all teams, or FOM or FIA pays into it and that's how teams pay for repairs (for crashes that were officially 'not their fault'). Any left over funds at the end of the season go into FIA's charitable endeavors. It allows teams to focus on development, and make sure they're paying their staff as much as they can, rather than holding on to a reserve that presumably goes back to whoever owns the team when not spent.
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General F1 Discussion / Re: cost of Perez's shunt
« Last post by John S on Today at 12:52:58 PM »When they use a spare monocoque Lonny they have to build another spare in case of further shunts, so it hardly matters whether cost of spare is in budget or not because price of one monocoque will be added come what may.
Presumably all teams run a contingency amount in budget for happenings like this, too many big shunts though will lead to loss of money for newly developed parts eventually in a season. Could make the difference between winning a championship in a really competitive year.
We haven't seen a down to the wire season yet in new cost cap era. Maybe it happens this year.
Presumably all teams run a contingency amount in budget for happenings like this, too many big shunts though will lead to loss of money for newly developed parts eventually in a season. Could make the difference between winning a championship in a really competitive year.
We haven't seen a down to the wire season yet in new cost cap era. Maybe it happens this year.
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General F1 Discussion / Re: cost of Perez's shunt
« Last post by lkjohnson1950 on Today at 03:25:16 AM »How much of that is money already spent for spares hanging on the wall or stored on a shelf or in a drawer back at HQ? Does he mean out of pocket or removed from inventory? Do they not have to count the spare monocoque if they don't use it?
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General F1 Discussion / Re: Monanco 2024
« Last post by Dare on May 27, 2024, 04:33:10 AM »What happened when a driver could start at the back
at Monaco and get a podium finish.
at Monaco and get a podium finish.
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F1 Grid Game / Re: Monaco scores
« Last post by Dare on May 26, 2024, 10:39:44 PM »Everyone check their scores. I think I sorted the race out
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F1 Grid Game / Monaco scores
« Last post by Dare on May 26, 2024, 09:35:41 PM »The site I was using for race results originally showed
Bottas as fast lap when I changed it to Lewis it seems
to have messed up all the scores. I'll have it fixed soon
Bottas as fast lap when I changed it to Lewis it seems
to have messed up all the scores. I'll have it fixed soon
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General F1 Discussion / Re: Monanco 2024
« Last post by Jericoke on May 26, 2024, 08:34:08 PM »This race is proof that Ferrari is headed in the right direction. Driver, team, engineering, strategy are all rowing together, and they're getting results. Good for them. (Even though Ferrari will always be my 'hated' team). The highlight of the race was Charles talking about how it was getting hard for him to see as emotions were welling up. Also enjoyed seeing the Prince being emotional for Charles' success.
As much as I think that K-Mag's time in F1 is over, I don't think he should be blamed for that crash. Perez went left, opened a hole, then went right. Everyone talks about how hard passing is at Monte Carlo, why would K-Mag not take what might be his only chance all day? Not to suggest I'm blaming Perez. It's a racing incident.
I was a little curious about Zhou tiptoeing past the medical car. I'm sure there are directions on what to do in the situation, but if people had to get in and out of that car in a hurry, having Zhou stay back for a few moments until given the all clear to continue would have made more sense to me.
I understand how the lack of 'required' pitstops gave the race a processional feel, but I feel that as a long time F1 watcher, along with the radio traffic, you could feel the strategists and drivers sweating the details. I think there might have been a pit strategy that could have won the race for McLaren, and for Ferrari to ensure McLaren would second guess themselves is a valid strategy. Maybe not very exciting in terms of racing, but I enjoyed the risk taking involved in not stopping.
As for Carlos getting a bonus life, I started watching F1 in the 90s: a red flag on the first lap meant a reset. I know that's not 100% in the current rules, but it's simple and easy for everyone to understand. I didn't have a problem with him restarting in third, even if it's not what should have happened. First lap of F1 is very much a lottery, and any decision is going to help/hurt someone unfairly.
As much as I think that K-Mag's time in F1 is over, I don't think he should be blamed for that crash. Perez went left, opened a hole, then went right. Everyone talks about how hard passing is at Monte Carlo, why would K-Mag not take what might be his only chance all day? Not to suggest I'm blaming Perez. It's a racing incident.
I was a little curious about Zhou tiptoeing past the medical car. I'm sure there are directions on what to do in the situation, but if people had to get in and out of that car in a hurry, having Zhou stay back for a few moments until given the all clear to continue would have made more sense to me.
I understand how the lack of 'required' pitstops gave the race a processional feel, but I feel that as a long time F1 watcher, along with the radio traffic, you could feel the strategists and drivers sweating the details. I think there might have been a pit strategy that could have won the race for McLaren, and for Ferrari to ensure McLaren would second guess themselves is a valid strategy. Maybe not very exciting in terms of racing, but I enjoyed the risk taking involved in not stopping.
As for Carlos getting a bonus life, I started watching F1 in the 90s: a red flag on the first lap meant a reset. I know that's not 100% in the current rules, but it's simple and easy for everyone to understand. I didn't have a problem with him restarting in third, even if it's not what should have happened. First lap of F1 is very much a lottery, and any decision is going to help/hurt someone unfairly.