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General F1 Discussion / Re: Monanco 2024
« Last post by Dare on Today at 04:33:10 AM »What happened when a driver could start at the back
at Monaco and get a podium finish.
at Monaco and get a podium finish.
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F1 Grid Game / Re: Monaco scores
« Last post by Dare on May 26, 2024, 10:39:44 PM »Everyone check their scores. I think I sorted the race out
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F1 Grid Game / Monaco scores
« Last post by Dare on May 26, 2024, 09:35:41 PM »The site I was using for race results originally showed
Bottas as fast lap when I changed it to Lewis it seems
to have messed up all the scores. I'll have it fixed soon
Bottas as fast lap when I changed it to Lewis it seems
to have messed up all the scores. I'll have it fixed soon
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General F1 Discussion / Re: Monanco 2024
« Last post by Jericoke on May 26, 2024, 08:34:08 PM »This race is proof that Ferrari is headed in the right direction. Driver, team, engineering, strategy are all rowing together, and they're getting results. Good for them. (Even though Ferrari will always be my 'hated' team). The highlight of the race was Charles talking about how it was getting hard for him to see as emotions were welling up. Also enjoyed seeing the Prince being emotional for Charles' success.
As much as I think that K-Mag's time in F1 is over, I don't think he should be blamed for that crash. Perez went left, opened a hole, then went right. Everyone talks about how hard passing is at Monte Carlo, why would K-Mag not take what might be his only chance all day? Not to suggest I'm blaming Perez. It's a racing incident.
I was a little curious about Zhou tiptoeing past the medical car. I'm sure there are directions on what to do in the situation, but if people had to get in and out of that car in a hurry, having Zhou stay back for a few moments until given the all clear to continue would have made more sense to me.
I understand how the lack of 'required' pitstops gave the race a processional feel, but I feel that as a long time F1 watcher, along with the radio traffic, you could feel the strategists and drivers sweating the details. I think there might have been a pit strategy that could have won the race for McLaren, and for Ferrari to ensure McLaren would second guess themselves is a valid strategy. Maybe not very exciting in terms of racing, but I enjoyed the risk taking involved in not stopping.
As for Carlos getting a bonus life, I started watching F1 in the 90s: a red flag on the first lap meant a reset. I know that's not 100% in the current rules, but it's simple and easy for everyone to understand. I didn't have a problem with him restarting in third, even if it's not what should have happened. First lap of F1 is very much a lottery, and any decision is going to help/hurt someone unfairly.
As much as I think that K-Mag's time in F1 is over, I don't think he should be blamed for that crash. Perez went left, opened a hole, then went right. Everyone talks about how hard passing is at Monte Carlo, why would K-Mag not take what might be his only chance all day? Not to suggest I'm blaming Perez. It's a racing incident.
I was a little curious about Zhou tiptoeing past the medical car. I'm sure there are directions on what to do in the situation, but if people had to get in and out of that car in a hurry, having Zhou stay back for a few moments until given the all clear to continue would have made more sense to me.
I understand how the lack of 'required' pitstops gave the race a processional feel, but I feel that as a long time F1 watcher, along with the radio traffic, you could feel the strategists and drivers sweating the details. I think there might have been a pit strategy that could have won the race for McLaren, and for Ferrari to ensure McLaren would second guess themselves is a valid strategy. Maybe not very exciting in terms of racing, but I enjoyed the risk taking involved in not stopping.
As for Carlos getting a bonus life, I started watching F1 in the 90s: a red flag on the first lap meant a reset. I know that's not 100% in the current rules, but it's simple and easy for everyone to understand. I didn't have a problem with him restarting in third, even if it's not what should have happened. First lap of F1 is very much a lottery, and any decision is going to help/hurt someone unfairly.
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General F1 Discussion / Monanco 2024
« Last post by Willy on May 26, 2024, 06:53:19 PM »Huge congratulations to Leclerc for finally getting the top step.
The 1st local boy to win in 93 years.
Ferrari strategy did not pooch his race as has been the case in the past.
I am a tad confused by why Sainz was allowed to retake 3rd on the restart when he went off on the 1st lap before the red flag. The off happened during a race lap not a safety car so he should have been back in 16th or thereabouts.
Monaco has always been a rather boring procession but it has such history that it is still a must watch race.
The 1st lap red flag allowed everyone to do a tire change so the entire race was a no stop event after that. So the pit stop strategy was not a factor in this race.
I have not heard at this point, but imagine Magnusson will be getting a race ban now after causing the red flag event.
The 1st local boy to win in 93 years.
Ferrari strategy did not pooch his race as has been the case in the past.
I am a tad confused by why Sainz was allowed to retake 3rd on the restart when he went off on the 1st lap before the red flag. The off happened during a race lap not a safety car so he should have been back in 16th or thereabouts.
Monaco has always been a rather boring procession but it has such history that it is still a must watch race.
The 1st lap red flag allowed everyone to do a tire change so the entire race was a no stop event after that. So the pit stop strategy was not a factor in this race.
I have not heard at this point, but imagine Magnusson will be getting a race ban now after causing the red flag event.
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Pit Pass / F1 rain cover mudguards a no go from FIA findings
« Last post by John S on May 25, 2024, 10:46:54 AM »New ground effect floors too powerful for mudguards to make any useful difference.
https://www.grandprix.com/news/fia-abandons-wet-weather-f1-mudguards-for-now.html
https://www.grandprix.com/news/fia-abandons-wet-weather-f1-mudguards-for-now.html
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F1 Teams / Re: Liberty Media CEO Maffei blocking Andretti F1
« Last post by John S on May 25, 2024, 09:45:45 AM »Eccelstone may have been a regressive a-hole, but he recognized opportunities to grow the sport when they came along, AND was willing to change course when he made mistakes!
He'd never let spite get in the way of a buck.
Think Ron Dennis might disagree Jeri, after he proposed and voted in favour of McLarens 100 million fine over spygate.
Seems there's more to Liberty's refusal to engage properly with Andretti Global over their FIA sanctioned entry then anyone thought.
It was supposed the power struggle between FIA president & Liberty's golden goose super cash machine was at heart of it.
Perhaps Maffei should be referred to an ethics investigation just like Ben Sulayem, FIA president, was subjected too after a convenient whistle-blower made peculiar allegations.
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F1 Teams / Re: Liberty Media CEO Maffei blocking Andretti F1
« Last post by Dare on May 24, 2024, 10:35:53 PM »Be interesting to see how the Andretti's and Maffei's paths crossed
in the past. Something had to have happened
in the past. Something had to have happened
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F1 Teams / Re: Liberty Media CEO Maffei blocking Andretti F1
« Last post by Jericoke on May 24, 2024, 07:09:33 PM »Eccelstone may have been a regressive a-hole, but he recognized opportunities to grow the sport when they came along, AND was willing to change course when he made mistakes!
He'd never let spite get in the way of a buck.
He'd never let spite get in the way of a buck.
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F1 Teams / Re: Liberty Media CEO Maffei blocking Andretti F1
« Last post by lkjohnson1950 on May 24, 2024, 05:58:11 PM »Perhaps Mr Maffei will get a subpeona from Congress and decide to change his mind. Few people enjoy the popularity of Mario across the US.